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Death Metal English (2013)
- motohagiography 3y agoI'd wonder whether an LLM could make a coherent translation engine. It's like cognoscenti of the cthulic void rhyming slang.
- peterleiser 3y agoI gave chatGPT4 the "common traits of Death Metal English" and then asked it to translate "Commuting to work" into death metal English. The response: In the parlance of Death Metal English, "Commuting to work" might be translated as "Transversing the Dreaded Pathway to the Monolith of Enslavement." That's pretty metal...
- motohagiography 3y agoThat's pretty fascinating, as there are values inherent in the language, where a death metal flavoured AI might create different associations and have a different logic - and then reify it. Whoops. Awesome.
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- nonethewiser 3y agoI did this on ChatGPT then found your comment. prompt: translate: "I love football. Go bears!" response: I EMBRACE THE GRIDIRON'S FURY. GO FORTH, O BEARS! Side note - I told chatgpt I wanted it to serve as a Death Metal English translator and that I would share the article for more details then make translation requests in follow up prompts. It responded by translating the article. It did a good job of translating after that but I wasnt sure if there was a better way for me to prompt it.
- peterleiser 3y agoFor that phrase chatgpt4 offered me: In Death Metal English, "I love football. Go bears!" could be translated as "I am enthralled by the Battle of the Spherical Beast. Ascend, Ominous Ursine Legion!"
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- europeanNyan 3y agoChatGPT was made for this. Here is a link to a conversation I just made so anyone can test it: https://chat.openai.com/share/807fddd2-4628-4052-9e65-0963175ecc10 https://chat.openai.com/share/807fddd2-4628-4052-9e65-096317... Here are some examples: Normal English: "My boss needs this report by 5 PM" Death Metal English: "THE OVERSEER OF OUR TOILS DEMANDS THE MANUSCRIPT OF ACCOUNTABILITY ANON UPON THE QUINTESSENTIAL HOUR OF THE SOLAR DECLINE" Normal English: "That sounds like a win-win situation to me!" Death Metal English: "UNTO MINE EARS, IT RESONATES AS THE DUAL FACETED TRIUMPH OF FATE'S INEXORABLE CONFLUENCE!" And, for those of you trying to explain the Single Responsibility Principle to your colleagues for the umpteenth time: "THE SOLITARY OBLIGATION DOCTRINE THUNDERETH FORTH THE DECREE THAT EVERY CONSTRUCT, STRUCTURE, SEGMENT, OR SERVITUDE MUST BEAR A SINGLE, UNMISTAKABLY ETCHED DUTY. IN THE TONGUE OF THE MORTALS, EACH CLASS, FUNCTION, OR MODULE SHALL BE GUIDED BY ONE AND ONLY ONE CATALYST OF TRANSFORMATION."
- account42 3y agoI woner if all these pointless "I wonder how LLM could be used here" ponderings could be generated by an LLM.
- mynegation 3y agoLeveling pillars of towering fear Rational instincts and insight to spare End of falseness, end of grace
- tgv 3y agoI think you forgot the caps lock.
- schlowmo 3y ago> Normal English: “Commuting to work” > Death Metal English: “TRANSPORTATION OF THE WAGEBOUND UNTO THE NEXUS OF PERPETUAL QUOTIDIAN ENSLAVEMENT” I can see that one play out very well in a job interview after realising that the job isn't as remote as promised.
- WesolyKubeczek 3y agoThe job is remote; there’s a catch, though, that you need to commute to its (sometimes very) remote location.
- owl57 3y agoMy current job involved a relocation to another country. Now I know how to call it: a very remote job. :)
- mcv 3y agoIt reminds me of that scene at a diner: Waiter: Can I take your order? Teenager: I wish to devour the unborn. Parent: Eggs. He wants eggs.
- dspillett 3y agoI need something for the opposite (WFH the majority of the time doesn't really work for me, the company is officially “hybrid” but with all the people I work with almost always elsewhere I'm just remote but in an office with a couple of people on other teams).
- voz_ 3y agoNice to see “Chuck Schuldiner of Death” referenced. An insanely talented musician, gone way too soon. Even if you don’t like death metal, give this band a listen if only for the skill alone.
- davexunit 3y agoFor me, Death's Human is unmatched and I don't think you'd have to already be a death metal fan to like it.
- krylon 3y agoI never listened to that (probably should), but I do like Symbolic very much. Maybe in part because the vocals are much easier to understand, and I like the lyrics.
- Tao3300 3y agoTHE INSPIRATION PENETRATES MY CRANIUM IT BIDS ME UTTER INFERNAL VERBIAGE IN CONTEMPLATION OF COMPILATION https://codewithrockstar.com/ https://codewithrockstar.com/
- ArekDymalski 3y ago>THE INSPIRATION PENETRATES MY CRANIUM rather: FEROCIOUS PENETRATION OF MY VULNERABLE CRANIUM BY THORNS OF INSPIRATION WICKED MIND'S UNSTABLE BLEH!
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- SubGenius 3y agoGreat read. Despite being into death metal for ages, I've never really paid attention to the lyrics. I tend to be overwhelmed by the intensity of the music itself, in a good way. I did look up the lyrics to Necrophagist many years ago, and they seemed to be really goofy. There's only so many words about mutilated stillborn babies that I want to hear. Perhaps there's also a fair amount of tongue-in-cheek involved, writing these lyrics. Anyway, amazing band.
- nazgulsenpai 3y agoI saw them live once, in a small standing room only venue. The musicianship on display was insane. Watching Muhammed belt out those vocals while playing extremely technical guitar parts was unforgettable.
- SubGenius 3y agoLucky you! Considering that the likelihood of Necro putting out a new record or playing live is almost zero. One can hope though! Their album Epitaph is what I like to call a "perfect" record, in the way that Aja by Steely Dan is a perfect record.
- RajT88 3y agoI understand that Muhammed got his masters in engineering and now works at BMW. BMW is likely to pay a lot better than gigging.
- jihadjihad 3y ago> Normal English: “You have to mow the lawn” Death Metal English: “BRING DOWN THE SCYTHE OF GODS UPON THE NECKS OF THE GREEN-RIBBED LEGIONS AND SWEEP AWAY THEIR WRETCHED BODIES; THOU ART IMPLORED BY ME” I'd listen to an album of that--while mowing!
- petre 3y agoThat would be the harvest. Funnily enough, Death Metal Englism is also written in THE VOICE. "His hollow, peculiar voice is represented in the books unquoted ; it is peculiar because since he is a tall skeleton, he has no vocal cords to speak with, and therefore the words enter your head with no involvement from your ears, the books get this across by having his "speech" in small caps." https://discworld.fandom.com/wiki/Death https://discworld.fandom.com/wiki/Death
- inglor_cz 3y agoTHE SCYTHE OF THE GODS DROWNED IN DEATHLY SILENCE DECREED BY THE LORDS OF THE INFERNAL CASTLE. (It is banned to mow the lawn here on Sundays, by a municipal bylaw.)
- stinos 3y agoIs it also banned if you don't make noise, like when using a scythe?
- bigger_cheese 3y agoI always enjoyed Bolt Thrower's brand of Death Metal English - they had a kind of brutal minimalism to their lyrics. "Spent Rounds, The Coffin Nails, On Your Empires Fall"
- rgrieselhuber 3y agoBolt Thrower never gets old.
- herewulf 3y agoAbsolutely not. The last album, Those Once Loyal (2005), was a masterpiece and while I respect the band for not making another album just to make another album.. I would really like another album!
- darrenf 3y agoI can't see it happening, since Martin Kearns died they've done nothing and I expect it to stay that way. Perhaps they'll do the odd gig here or there, but tbh I'm happy not hearing a Bolt Thrower album with a different drummer.
- ane 3y agoGo listen to Memoriam, it's a sort of a successor band to Bolt Thrower. Even the name is a direct reference to Martin. Karl Willetts does the vocals and the sound is pretty much the same. It has/had other members from BT, then the rest come from Benediction and Sacrilege They've put out five albums in six years (!), one recently
- MDGeist 3y agoThe Memoriam albums keep getting better as they go IMO, definitely worth a listen for BT fans. I got a patch from them recently and Karl mailed it himself and sent me a lovely hand written note and a signed poster. What a legend!
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- noduerme 3y agoDefinitely a more specific patois than exists in most subgenres of music, but far from the only one. Country and R&B both have a ridiculous set of lyrical tropes. Goths have been stuck in the same limited vocab since the 80s. The coolest thing you can say about DM is it's still fairly niche.
- m0llusk 3y agoINSECTS ENCIRCLE ME, INFEST MY SOUL
- sickcodebruh 3y agoThis article was written by my good friend, bandmate, and former co-worker Doug Moore! Doug is best known as the vocalist for extreme death metal noise maniacs Pyrrhon. https://pyrrhonband.bandcamp.com/album/abscess-time https://pyrrhonband.bandcamp.com/album/abscess-time He is also the vocalist for the death metal band Glorious Depravity, in which I drum. This makes best use of his DME skills. https://gloriousdepravity.bandcamp.com/album/ageless-violence https://gloriousdepravity.bandcamp.com/album/ageless-violenc.... Look at the lyrics to “Ocean of Scabs” to see a master at work. He’s also the vocalist of the experimental black metal band Scarcity. https://scarcity-nyc.bandcamp.com/album/aveilut https://scarcity-nyc.bandcamp.com/album/aveilut And let’s not forget his epic death/doom project Weeping Sores. He writes all the songs (everything except violin) and handles guitar, bass, and vocals on the recording. I had the pleasure of mixing this one. https://weepingsores.bandcamp.com/album/weeping-sores https://weepingsores.bandcamp.com/album/weeping-sores Finally, the HM crowd will appreciate that he — like everyone else in Glorious Depravity — is a software engineer. He works for the fitness tech startup Proteus Motion, https://www.proteusmotion.com https://www.proteusmotion.com. I worked there with him for many years. He’s a very smart, talented person and I feel fortunate to be his friend and collaborator.
- cdme 3y agoI've made some of my best friends through a shared affinity for metal — I even taught myself to code in part working on web stuff for Cynic and Augury. Doug's projects are all rad.
- idontwantthis 3y agoWho are the lyrics for and what is expected of the audience? Are they purely artistic or do fans usually read the lyrics at some point and appreciate them and do they ever understand them in the song?
- jmopp 3y agoAt least when I listen to death metal, the vocals are simply another instrument in the mix. And as such, the lyrics add to the ambience rather than being a focus of the song.
- self_awareness 3y agoI like to drink coffee every morning... or should I say THE RIVERS OF DARK ELIXIR COURSE THROUGH MY VEINS AT DAWN'S FIRST LIGHT; A MOLTEN BLACK POTION TO SUMMON FORTH THE AWAKENING OF MY SLUMBERING SPIRIT!
- herewulf 3y agoGood try but these are definitely power metal lyrics!
- tetha 3y ago"Formed from the most ancient clay, by the secret ways of the deepest dwarfs, burned in the deepest kilns of the darkest mountain homes, was forged an artifact of supreme power - a mug, capable of holding both the heart of an undead goddess and the spit of a fiery dragon! This mighty mug was the only mug in the universe to hold the most powerful elixir in time and space: the dark elixir of spirits, inspiration and power. When the mighty mug fell into the hands of Kraxtan, the evil necromancer, the black elixir spilled into eternal darkness over the world..." Yep, 100% the into to a power metal album. Just need someone like Christopher Lee to read it and off we go.
- spiralx 3y agoSounds more like something from Bal-Sagoth, my favourite pretentious black metal group ever. http://www.darklyrics.com/lyrics/balsagoth/starfireburningupontheiceveiledthroneofultimathule.html#2 http://www.darklyrics.com/lyrics/balsagoth/starfireburningup...
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- herewulf 3y agoThe article hits the hammer smashed face right on the face. Great read! In more recent years I've really come to appreciate the Death Metal English of bands like Obscura. Nothing crushes your significance like song titles and lyrics of the IMMENSITY OV ORBITAL ELEMENTS TREMENDING DESOLATE SPHERES THROUGHOUT THE UNIVERSE MOMENTUM VASTNESS... Yes, it's about space. And the musicianship is just bonkers.
- Innervisio 3y agoOh man, amazing Obscura is. If you enjoy them a lot, check Allegaeon. They’re my favourite technical extreme metal band. And very nerdy lyrics, they have a whole range of melodies and rymthms. Also with classical guitar passages.
- Simon_O_Rourke 3y agoI'm a bit confused about most death metal, are they trying to appear (as the cockney's say) "hard men" in the way that gangsta rappers are trying to portray street-level gangs?
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- nativecoinc 3y agoYou could watch interviews/conversations with them and judge for yourself.
- kendalf89 3y agoIt definitely depends on the band. Some of them are while others try to portray themselves as prophets or elevated beings.
- DoItToMe81 3y agoProphets? Which bands, exactly?
- twic 3y agoDeath metal is indeed very silly. What I'm not sure of is whether its fans don't realise it's silly, embrace the silliness, or have simply moved beyond such pathetic human dichotomies as serious and silly.
- Semaphor 3y agoI’d say most of us do realize it. The whole trveness is IME more a blackmetal thing. Now the question if we embrace it or have moved beyond is more personal ;)
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- Synaesthesia 3y agoCradle of Filth have highly entertaining lyrics.
- nativecoinc 3y agoI like Be'lakor – An Ember's Arc https://genius.com/Belakor-an-embers-arc-lyrics https://genius.com/Belakor-an-embers-arc-lyrics It’s a song about a photon.
- twic 3y agoWITNESSING THE CACOPHONIC LORDS OF NECROTIC IRON'S UNHOLY DESECRATION OF THE INNOCENT SAXON TONGUE. EDIT: mild Baader-Meinhof at the word chronocration, since I only came across the term "the great chronocrator" a couple of weeks ago.
- adhesive_wombat 3y agoAnd now this article (and the very comment this is a reply to) are the English-language authorities on the word "chronocration" according to Google. If it hadn't been for a 1657 French book, this article would have been a Googlewhack when published, too.
- spiralx 3y agoI just went from the article itself to searching Google for "chronocration" and then on to this comment from the results, the recursion is METAL.
- solumunus 3y agoI love death metal but hate so many of the vocals. If an instrumental version of “none so vile” existed I would pay good money for it.
- tgv 3y agoI once tried to start a reverse dictionary, an obscurantorium: look up a normal word to turn it into caliginous locution. I didn't get far, so I'm glad to see other people have brought it to grotesque heights.
- VMG 3y agoChatGPT does a nice job of this. > [Prompt]: Let's create a reverse dictionary, an obscurantorium: look up a normal word to turn it into caliginous locution. > [ChatGPT]: Absolutely, that sounds like a fascinating endeavor! Let's turn a few everyday words into some delightfully arcane vocabulary. > Water - Aquatic Adamant > Sun - Celestial Candescent > House - Domiciliary Edifice .... > In the spirit of our obscurantorium, the sentence "You have been automated" could be transmogrified to: > "Thou hast been actuated into automatonian existence."
- obituary_latte 3y agoNecrophagist[0] is also a good example of this technique. They also employ almost magical instrumental ability both in studio and live which is a hard feat to accomplish--especially with blast beasts and hyper-technical solos. Too bad they have pretty much retired. Rumor has is Muhammed Suiçmez (lead singer/songwriter, main force behind the band) went to work for BMW, would not be surprised if it were as a SE :) [0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BalLk6uOMzw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BalLk6uOMzw
- FrustratedMonky 3y agoGreat, now I'm going to have to use GPT to re-write all my work memo's in Death Metal today.
- JPws_Prntr_Fngr 3y agoThe Black Dahlia Murder had one of the greatest Death Metal Englishists of all time: In that very moment which life doth fade away / Ejected from my human shell exempt from time or space / Floating absorbing omniscient in display / A grandiose presentation unravels before me Not in chronology but so wildly all at once / An open dioramic rendition of events / Some horrible integral just the same a / Ll pieces are key to the sum of the being / A strobe of emotions vivid extreme / The rapturous voyage through life's victories / The man that I once was I have left him behind / What kind of man does the assembled puzzle read / With soul spread open wide I calmly contemplate my destiny RIP Trevor
- progmetaldev 3y agoI got to see them on the last tour with Trevor. He was as much a musician as a fan, and really loved meeting and hanging out with fans. He understood the place he held just like the bands that came before him that he idolized.
- JPws_Prntr_Fngr 3y agoThat's awesome - I saw them a few years ago but stupidly didn't even stick around for the whole set. I hope we get to meet him again somehow.
- wussboy 3y agoI find these almost laughably stupid. An eight year old boy might find them neat because they’re gross, but surely this is the lowest form of use the English (or any) language can see?
- progmetaldev 3y agoUntil you realize that entertainment is subjective, most are tongue in cheek, or are presented in the same way one presents a horror movie. From your comment, I don't think it would be helpful for me to point you to bands that are death metal and also have deep, meaningful lyrics, but they exist.
- wussboy 3y agoI am pleased to learn this, actually. I enjoy the music of death metal but the lyrics seem so cliche, so…laughably childish…that I’d appreciate some recommendations to something with some…erm…meat.
- lancesells 3y ago> “Some of them early songs were, instead of actually singing something, it was maybe just a series of growls or screams that kind of went along with it,” he says. The first Obituary album doesn't always have lyrics even though you can find fans that transcribed them. :) https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/obituary-talk-three-decade-quest-for-the-perfect-meat-and-potatoes-groove-108807/ https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/obituary-t...
- YeGoblynQueenne 3y agoMnyeah. I prefer simpler pleasures: Eyes bulging from their sockets With every swing of my mallet I smash your fucking head in, until brains seep in through the cracks, blood does leak distorted beauty, catastrophe Steaming slop, splattered all over me https://www.lyrics.com/lyric/29118769/Cannibal+Corpse/Hammer+Smashed+Face https://www.lyrics.com/lyric/29118769/Cannibal+Corpse/Hammer... Or, you know: Drink from the goblet, the goblet of gore Taste the zombie's drug, now you want more Drifting from the living, joining with the dead Zombie dwelling maggots, now infest your head Zombie ritual Zombie ritual https://songmeanings.com/songs/view/124887/ https://songmeanings.com/songs/view/124887/ Gets the point across, no fuss, no frills.
- iamatworknow 3y agoA culturally relevant favorite of mine: The lives of all they occupy, their eyes in dismal gloom The all-piercing, dead oculi, mirrors of our doom Oblivious to the trespass as you gaze into the black The demon of surveillance insultingly staring back Into you Into you https://genius.com/Meshuggah-the-demons-name-is-surveillance-lyrics https://genius.com/Meshuggah-the-demons-name-is-surveillance...
- sogen 3y agoI assume the first one is about playing Whack-a-mole?
- nfriend 3y agoChatGPT makes a great regular-English-to-Death-Metal-English translator when prompted with the examples from this article: https://chat.openai.com/share/261034ff-f5d5-404c-b354-c9d58e3af509 https://chat.openai.com/share/261034ff-f5d5-404c-b354-c9d58e...
- cunningfatalist 3y agoOh, that was fun; great article! During my MA, I wrote a paper on Swedish Melodic Death Metal lyrics and what common themes they have. I can't seem to find the paper now, but I remember having a blast. I think the result was something like anger, violence, and loyalty/brotherhood.
- crtified 3y agoThe 1991 metal album "Necroticism - Descanting the Insalubrious" [0] by British band Carcass was a landmark work which took the use of unusual vocabulary in metal lyrics to a new (and arguably-satirical) level [1]. Here are some examples, lists of the uncommon words included in a few of the songs lyrics: Track 1, "Inpropagation" : atrabilious, crevet, ebullition, beatrific, exequiet, coronach, humous, fecundate, defalcating, lacrimation Track 2, "Corporal Jigsaw Quandary" (see [2] for YT video of song) : evulsed, deviscerated, chondrin, decollate, quiescent, detrital, sequacious, commensated, convented, uliginous Track 4, "Pedigree Butchery" : spumous, crubescent, martilinear, desparental, primparal, sporulate, chimerical, rheological, fluxing, "illegitimeat", contumely, ebullient, despumation, desipient Back then it was common belief that the band members were medical students, and that the terminology in their lyrics came from their studies, but this ultimately turned out to be a myth. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necroticism_%E2%80%93_Descanting_the_Insalubrious https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necroticism_%E2%80%93_Descanti... [1] http://www.darklyrics.com/lyrics/carcass/necroticismdescantingtheinsalubrious.html http://www.darklyrics.com/lyrics/carcass/necroticismdescanti... [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5nGo7yUtlE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5nGo7yUtlE
- spiralx 3y agoI loved that album so much when I was 17, and I don't remember anything other than HP Lovecraft that made me look up so many words in a dictionary - unfortunately this was back when I didn't have internet access, and most of the medical terms Carcass used weren't in my dictionary lol. And I guessed that they were medical students from that, seems I wasn't the only one to make that assumption! But never since have I come across such philial odes to corpses and the cleaning thereof. Edited to add I'm thinking of Symphonies of Sickness as the one I listened to the most, although Necroticism came a close second.