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Absolutely honest is a curse, because it's self-defeating. I am not advocating doing or saying anything unethical, but I don't think you are obliged to "tell t

by dekhn 3y ago

Absolutely honest is a curse, because it's self-defeating. I am not advocating doing or saying anything unethical, but I don't think you are obliged to "tell the detailed truth" in a job interview. As a counterargument, a potential future coworker of mine had their offer rescinded after a background check determined they had worked for several companies known to steal IP, but left that off their resume. At least in my case, saying you got fired has zero implications. I've been close to being fired before, and the reasons were bogus- but there's no way to communicate that without a hiring agent being biased (incorrectly) against you. And I don't know that there truly is a difference, legally speaking, in terms of "being fired" or "laid off". You got terminated either way.

JohnFen 3y ago
You can be perfectly honest while still putting things in the best possible light, and without divulging everything (although lying by omission is still lying). > I am not advocating doing or saying anything unethical I thought you were advocating being deceptive. My apologies. I try to be honest for ethical reasons, but being scrupulously honest (at least the best I can be as a fallible human being) has also served me very, very well in my career. I am quite certain I wouldn't have succeeded nearly to the degree I have if I weren't. So I recommend it very much. It has, at times, caused me some loss, but the gains I've got from the habit have more than offset those. > And I don't know that there truly is a difference, legally speaking, in terms of "being fired" or "laid off". I wasn't saying there's a legal difference, I was saying there's a difference in the impression it makes on people. If you've been laid off, it was probably because of business considerations outside of your control. If you were fired, it was probably because of some sort of misbehavior on your part. But if you say you were laid off when you were fired for cause, that's lying.

by dekhn 3y ago

JohnFen 3y ago

You can be perfectly honest while still putting things in the best possible light, and without divulging everything (although lying by omission is still lying). > I am not advocating doing or saying anything unethical I thought you were advocating being deceptive. My apologies. I try to be honest for ethical reasons, but being scrupulously honest (at least the best I can be as a fallible human being) has also served me very, very well in my career. I am quite certain I wouldn't have succeeded nearly to the degree I have if I weren't. So I recommend it very much. It has, at times, caused me some loss, but the gains I've got from the habit have more than offset those. > And I don't know that there truly is a difference, legally speaking, in terms of "being fired" or "laid off". I wasn't saying there's a legal difference, I was saying there's a difference in the impression it makes on people. If you've been laid off, it was probably because of business considerations outside of your control. If you were fired, it was probably because of some sort of misbehavior on your part. But if you say you were laid off when you were fired for cause, that's lying.