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Wow when I saw the title I thought "is this related to the case from earlier" and it appears to be one and the same. I can't believe anyone would buy an Amazon

Wow when I saw the title I thought "is this related to the case from earlier" and it appears to be one and the same. I can't believe anyone would buy an Amazon product after this, it's crazy! Can your other IOT things be shut off? Can your AWS account be disabled?

gryn 3y ago
the answer to all of those are yes. it's the reason why you should not put all your eggs in on basket. especially the case for google. ex, with their anti adblock movement in youtube, there's a small chance you might find yourself locked from your emails, GCP, Drive and every other service if they decide to be more aggressive about it. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36747367 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36747367
_a_a_a_ 3y ago
Yep same case. He's not a quick learner, is he.
- harry8 3y ago
  Same reaction, only I thought of Amazon not learning. Gotta be a non-zero chance this person is loving going back to the publicity well. But yeah all of it is speculation really, right? There's no facts here you'd bet large sums on being as described - yet it's entirely possible some are too. Who knows? And that's why we have laws and courts to deal with bad behavior.
bryanrasmussen 3y ago
although it is unethical for Amazon to do this etc. and obviously I am the last person to argue for people needing to be smart about things but probably it would make sense not to have business services associated with personal services, also for tax purposes etc.
phpisthebest 3y ago
I can't believe anyone would buy cloud encumbered IoT or many of the things people do today in modern society where they pick convenience and/or instant gratification over all else Amazon and other Tech companies are Huge because they provide people what they desire instantly with no friction. Why setup a HA instance and learn to manage things yourself when you can just outsource it
- duped 3y ago
  You can't believe people buy the cheaper options both in price and time investment?
  - JohnFen 3y ago
    I believe it, because I see it. I don't understand people trading freedom for saving a few bucks, though. It seems the height of idiocy to me.
    - duped 3y ago
      It's because most people don't consider it to be "trading freedom." If the thing breaks you replace it. But people actually do want the kinds of features enabled by IoT devices on top of cloud infrastructure and they're reasonably priced. It's not idiocy, it's utility. And you're free not to buy into it. It's no skin off your back.
      - JohnFen 3y ago
        I consider it idiocy because you can have the same utility without putting control of your home into someone else's hands. > And you're free not to buy into it. It's no skin off your back. Of course. It's absolutely no skin off my back. I'm just expressing that I don't understand why people choose to do this. It's also true that I don't need to understand! But I am curious.

gryn 3y ago

the answer to all of those are yes. it's the reason why you should not put all your eggs in on basket. especially the case for google. ex, with their anti adblock movement in youtube, there's a small chance you might find yourself locked from your emails, GCP, Drive and every other service if they decide to be more aggressive about it. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36747367 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36747367

_a_a_a_ 3y ago

Yep same case. He's not a quick learner, is he.

harry8 3y ago
Same reaction, only I thought of Amazon not learning. Gotta be a non-zero chance this person is loving going back to the publicity well. But yeah all of it is speculation really, right? There's no facts here you'd bet large sums on being as described - yet it's entirely possible some are too. Who knows? And that's why we have laws and courts to deal with bad behavior.

bryanrasmussen 3y ago

although it is unethical for Amazon to do this etc. and obviously I am the last person to argue for people needing to be smart about things but probably it would make sense not to have business services associated with personal services, also for tax purposes etc.

phpisthebest 3y ago

I can't believe anyone would buy cloud encumbered IoT or many of the things people do today in modern society where they pick convenience and/or instant gratification over all else Amazon and other Tech companies are Huge because they provide people what they desire instantly with no friction. Why setup a HA instance and learn to manage things yourself when you can just outsource it

duped 3y ago
You can't believe people buy the cheaper options both in price and time investment?
- JohnFen 3y ago
  I believe it, because I see it. I don't understand people trading freedom for saving a few bucks, though. It seems the height of idiocy to me.
  - duped 3y ago
    It's because most people don't consider it to be "trading freedom." If the thing breaks you replace it. But people actually do want the kinds of features enabled by IoT devices on top of cloud infrastructure and they're reasonably priced. It's not idiocy, it's utility. And you're free not to buy into it. It's no skin off your back.
    - JohnFen 3y ago
      I consider it idiocy because you can have the same utility without putting control of your home into someone else's hands. > And you're free not to buy into it. It's no skin off your back. Of course. It's absolutely no skin off my back. I'm just expressing that I don't understand why people choose to do this. It's also true that I don't need to understand! But I am curious.