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This paper rings a lot of alarm bells for me. It's rambling, written in a very odd style, and contains a lot of useless figures. Is this one of those fake paper

by Imnimo 3y ago

This paper rings a lot of alarm bells for me. It's rambling, written in a very odd style, and contains a lot of useless figures. Is this one of those fake paper pranks or something?

CSMastermind 3y ago
You know that would actually be meta level genius if this is really an experiment in seeing if AI can generate a paper that will get accepted.
- red-iron-pine 3y ago
  That's been done already, and long before chatGPT
stephencoyner 3y ago
It seems like it could well be fake. The Twitter account that launched this paper [1] links to a website [2] for the company with a fake address and what seems like fake employees (they all have no LinkedIn profiles). The address is 500 Baudrillard Drive, San Francisco, CA 94127 which doesn't exist, but Jean Baudrillard [3] was a French sociologist and philosopher focused on media, culture, technological communication, and the concept of “hyperreality” 1: https://twitter.com/fablesimulation https://twitter.com/fablesimulation 2: https://www.thesimulation.co/ https://www.thesimulation.co/ 3: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Baudrillard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Baudrillard
- joe_the_user 3y ago
  Ironically, while the paper is incoherent, it's weird terminology and reasoning makes it more entertaining than the generated episode: "While using and prompting a large language model as part of the process can introduce "several30 challenges". Some of them, like hallucinations, which introduce uncertainty or in more creative terms "unexpectedness", can be regarded as creative side-effects to influence the expected story outcome in positive ways."
floren 3y ago
I was asking myself the same, trying to decide if the paper had been AI-generated as some sort of meta-"Gotcha!"
MisterTea 3y ago
The language is thick as well as rambling. It's obfuscation. Huge sentences a human would attempt to break up for clarity ramble on. It does feel like someone apeing writing "a big fancy soundin' science paper." It's hitting that uncanny valley of writing for me.
rupertbreheny 3y ago
Nice to see a conversation here already. Yes, fake photos and profiles and the domain was only registered this month. Could this be a movie or TV stealth campaign? https://sg.godaddy.com/whois/results.aspx?domain=thesimulation.co https://sg.godaddy.com/whois/results.aspx?domain=thesimulati...
GonzoVeritas 3y ago
It appears to be somewhere between a prank and satire. (or maybe they have larger ambitions.) If you take a look at their videos hosted on Vimeo, "Simulation" seems to be associated with a company called "Fable." Just from a cursory look, it appears Edward Saatchi is associated with both. (although that could just be coincidental.) The Vimeo account lists two websites, the first, fable-studio.com, which links back to the Simulation site and the other is for the Virtual Beings summit at virtual-beings.com. (Vimeo: https://vimeo.com/user94220217 https://vimeo.com/user94220217) "Simulation" may be satire, an art project, a well-executed joke, or precursor to an actual company, but whatever it is, they've put a lot of work in it. It has a lot of AI-generated assets in the main site, but the overall design work is impressive, the concept has been well fleshed-out, and the execution is on point. It's clever and interesting, I want to see what comes next.

by Imnimo 3y ago

This paper rings a lot of alarm bells for me. It's rambling, written in a very odd style, and contains a lot of useless figures. Is this one of those fake paper pranks or something?

CSMastermind 3y ago

You know that would actually be meta level genius if this is really an experiment in seeing if AI can generate a paper that will get accepted.

red-iron-pine 3y ago
That's been done already, and long before chatGPT

stephencoyner 3y ago

It seems like it could well be fake. The Twitter account that launched this paper [1] links to a website [2] for the company with a fake address and what seems like fake employees (they all have no LinkedIn profiles). The address is 500 Baudrillard Drive, San Francisco, CA 94127 which doesn't exist, but Jean Baudrillard [3] was a French sociologist and philosopher focused on media, culture, technological communication, and the concept of “hyperreality” 1: https://twitter.com/fablesimulation https://twitter.com/fablesimulation 2: https://www.thesimulation.co/ https://www.thesimulation.co/ 3: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Baudrillard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Baudrillard

joe_the_user 3y ago
Ironically, while the paper is incoherent, it's weird terminology and reasoning makes it more entertaining than the generated episode: "While using and prompting a large language model as part of the process can introduce "several30 challenges". Some of them, like hallucinations, which introduce uncertainty or in more creative terms "unexpectedness", can be regarded as creative side-effects to influence the expected story outcome in positive ways."

floren 3y ago

I was asking myself the same, trying to decide if the paper had been AI-generated as some sort of meta-"Gotcha!"

MisterTea 3y ago

The language is thick as well as rambling. It's obfuscation. Huge sentences a human would attempt to break up for clarity ramble on. It does feel like someone apeing writing "a big fancy soundin' science paper." It's hitting that uncanny valley of writing for me.

rupertbreheny 3y ago

Nice to see a conversation here already. Yes, fake photos and profiles and the domain was only registered this month. Could this be a movie or TV stealth campaign? https://sg.godaddy.com/whois/results.aspx?domain=thesimulation.co https://sg.godaddy.com/whois/results.aspx?domain=thesimulati...

GonzoVeritas 3y ago

It appears to be somewhere between a prank and satire. (or maybe they have larger ambitions.) If you take a look at their videos hosted on Vimeo, "Simulation" seems to be associated with a company called "Fable." Just from a cursory look, it appears Edward Saatchi is associated with both. (although that could just be coincidental.) The Vimeo account lists two websites, the first, fable-studio.com, which links back to the Simulation site and the other is for the Virtual Beings summit at virtual-beings.com. (Vimeo: https://vimeo.com/user94220217 https://vimeo.com/user94220217) "Simulation" may be satire, an art project, a well-executed joke, or precursor to an actual company, but whatever it is, they've put a lot of work in it. It has a lot of AI-generated assets in the main site, but the overall design work is impressive, the concept has been well fleshed-out, and the execution is on point. It's clever and interesting, I want to see what comes next.