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It also took fascism way further than Europe, so it kinda balances out.

asynchronous 3y ago
…did you just say Europe, the literal birthplace of fascism, took it less farther than the US?
mardifoufs 3y ago
Lol. Lmao. right wing parties in Europe regularly get 40% of the vote. And they would make Republicans seem like bleeding heart, diverse liberals in comparison. Marine lepen's party regularly calls for not just closing border but sending back uppity french citizens if they are Muslims lol. Europeans online just really like to ignore their own problems, it's almost amazing.
- derelicta 3y ago
  Yup, other Europeans laughing at America while Fascism has reached new highs on the old continent is the real joke
krageon 3y ago
In the US you have young, silly fascism: cops killing anyone who isn't their preferred skin colour in the street. It's all very hateful and not palatable, even for folks that don't think further than the current incident. In the EU you have older, more refined fascism: a political party subtly (or not so subtly) intimating an entire group of people is a huge problem, a return to "strong leader" values, etc. It's perhaps a bit more seductive, and deliberately so: public perception would be more poor if it was as violence-heavy as it is in the US. You have to remember the EU is where fascism came from. It was a huge deal before WW2 and in essence it has never really left, it has just gotten better at rebranding. Eventually you will see the hot new fascism trends in the EU transported to the US as well, it is how fashion works. N.B.: I'm not a fan (of fascism or other regressive policies), which is perhaps not obvious. I just wanted to make clear that while the US has many problems and they are horrible, most of them are just "well the EU is doing this now so why aren't they???" and you can sort that out by waiting a generation or two. It's how the two areas started out (for ease of dialogue I'm ignoring how the US actually started out, that's a can of worms for another day), after all.

…did you just say Europe, the literal birthplace of fascism, took it less farther than the US?

Lol. Lmao. right wing parties in Europe regularly get 40% of the vote. And they would make Republicans seem like bleeding heart, diverse liberals in comparison. Marine lepen's party regularly calls for not just closing border but sending back uppity french citizens if they are Muslims lol. Europeans online just really like to ignore their own problems, it's almost amazing.

derelicta 3y ago
Yup, other Europeans laughing at America while Fascism has reached new highs on the old continent is the real joke

krageon 3y ago

In the US you have young, silly fascism: cops killing anyone who isn't their preferred skin colour in the street. It's all very hateful and not palatable, even for folks that don't think further than the current incident. In the EU you have older, more refined fascism: a political party subtly (or not so subtly) intimating an entire group of people is a huge problem, a return to "strong leader" values, etc. It's perhaps a bit more seductive, and deliberately so: public perception would be more poor if it was as violence-heavy as it is in the US. You have to remember the EU is where fascism came from. It was a huge deal before WW2 and in essence it has never really left, it has just gotten better at rebranding. Eventually you will see the hot new fascism trends in the EU transported to the US as well, it is how fashion works. N.B.: I'm not a fan (of fascism or other regressive policies), which is perhaps not obvious. I just wanted to make clear that while the US has many problems and they are horrible, most of them are just "well the EU is doing this now so why aren't they???" and you can sort that out by waiting a generation or two. It's how the two areas started out (for ease of dialogue I'm ignoring how the US actually started out, that's a can of worms for another day), after all.