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The US’s secret sauce is that is an empire that can, will and does constantly project its massive military and clandestine power around the world to further its

The US’s secret sauce is that is an empire that can, will and does constantly project its massive military and clandestine power around the world to further its interests at all times, while never having to deal with any of its blowback. And then americans laugh at the EU welcoming refugees you created in the first place, or pretend the EU is socialist while laughing at its massive energy crisis caused by its completely batshit insane liberalized energy market. We are ruled by atlanticist neoliberals you put there in the first place.

voz_ 3y ago
This is nonsense. Blaming it on US policy is insanely narrow, and ignores years of colonial interest from almost every European nation.
dougmwne 3y ago
I’d largely agree with that, though I originally meant the secret sauce that gets better results out of immigrants. The effects of empire go far beyond military. The monetary dominance serves as a hidden tax on all other currencies as the US enjoys more money creation than other central banks can manage. The US prints and the world gets the inflation consequences. Plus the cultural dominance lets the US reshape the world economy, legal systems and behavior to suit the interests of US companies. And yes, there is massive political interference and an absolute fit when foreign governments don’t bend the knee. Your big mistake here is to imply some kind of us vs them. Regular Americans are not laughing at you, they are under the same boot heel that you are. This whole system is for the benefit of maybe a few thousand or tens of thousands of incredibly rich and powerful people. They don’t care about the citizenship of of the people they are exploiting. Actually, people in the EU have done a better job fighting back for more comfortable lives for all. Working class Americans are a lost cause.
selectodude 3y ago
Pretty sure Europe's massive energy crisis is an own goal caused by replacing all their energy generation with Russian natgas.
- actionfromafar 3y ago
  The own goal was buying the gas in the first place!
  - nonethewiser 3y ago
    Is that not what he just said? Surely a prime example is Germany shutting down nuclear and and bypassing Ukraine as a Russian natural gas hub woth Nord Stream 2. Whoops.
    - severino 3y ago
      That was not the mistake. The mistake was not to put NS2 into operation due to pressure from the US, and now, cutting ties with Russia while you keep shutting down your nuclear.
philwelch 3y ago
> We are ruled by atlanticist neoliberals you put there in the first place. And who exactly was running continental Europe before that?
blibble 3y ago
pretty certain it's the germans that decided to use the russian gas meanwhile the US was pretty upset about the idea
- dougmwne 3y ago
  It was economical to buy the Russian gas delivered by pipeline. The US wanted to sell its more expensive LNG. And it ended up getting its wish after it supported a western aligned Ukraine and while no one wants to claim responsibility for blowing up nordstream, someone definitely blew it up and it helped cement the US as the gas supplier of Europe. I think the message is clear that it’s best not to upset the US.
  - blibble 3y ago
    > It was economical to buy the Russian gas delivered by pipeline. see I can understand this logic pre 2014, but post 2014 (i.e. Crimea), absolutely not the euros paid to putin were used to re-arm and those weapons are now being used in Ukraine and if he wins then Eastern Europe is next in line but yes germans saved 2% on their gas bills for 10 years
    - FpUser 3y ago
      >"and if he wins then Eastern Europe is next in line" I doubt Putin is suicidal. Eastern Europe is in NATO, hence protected.
      - blibble 3y ago
        it'll never be so obvious that NATO can declare it as an attack you've seen the playbook in ukraine twice now there will be an russian speaking minority in estonia/lithuania/... that will that rebel against anti russian oppression, guerilla warfare against the authorities, then they'll hold an rigged referendum, then a decade later the Russian government will formally annex what they've effectively controlled for years he won't send tanks across the border that will trigger Article 5
hirvi74 3y ago
> We are ruled by atlanticist neoliberals you put there in the first place You all created us. So, you all are technically responsible for your own problems. ;)

voz_ 3y ago

This is nonsense. Blaming it on US policy is insanely narrow, and ignores years of colonial interest from almost every European nation.

dougmwne 3y ago

I’d largely agree with that, though I originally meant the secret sauce that gets better results out of immigrants. The effects of empire go far beyond military. The monetary dominance serves as a hidden tax on all other currencies as the US enjoys more money creation than other central banks can manage. The US prints and the world gets the inflation consequences. Plus the cultural dominance lets the US reshape the world economy, legal systems and behavior to suit the interests of US companies. And yes, there is massive political interference and an absolute fit when foreign governments don’t bend the knee. Your big mistake here is to imply some kind of us vs them. Regular Americans are not laughing at you, they are under the same boot heel that you are. This whole system is for the benefit of maybe a few thousand or tens of thousands of incredibly rich and powerful people. They don’t care about the citizenship of of the people they are exploiting. Actually, people in the EU have done a better job fighting back for more comfortable lives for all. Working class Americans are a lost cause.

selectodude 3y ago

Pretty sure Europe's massive energy crisis is an own goal caused by replacing all their energy generation with Russian natgas.

actionfromafar 3y ago
The own goal was buying the gas in the first place!
- nonethewiser 3y ago
  Is that not what he just said? Surely a prime example is Germany shutting down nuclear and and bypassing Ukraine as a Russian natural gas hub woth Nord Stream 2. Whoops.
  - severino 3y ago
    That was not the mistake. The mistake was not to put NS2 into operation due to pressure from the US, and now, cutting ties with Russia while you keep shutting down your nuclear.

philwelch 3y ago

> We are ruled by atlanticist neoliberals you put there in the first place. And who exactly was running continental Europe before that?

blibble 3y ago

pretty certain it's the germans that decided to use the russian gas meanwhile the US was pretty upset about the idea

dougmwne 3y ago
It was economical to buy the Russian gas delivered by pipeline. The US wanted to sell its more expensive LNG. And it ended up getting its wish after it supported a western aligned Ukraine and while no one wants to claim responsibility for blowing up nordstream, someone definitely blew it up and it helped cement the US as the gas supplier of Europe. I think the message is clear that it’s best not to upset the US.
- blibble 3y ago
  > It was economical to buy the Russian gas delivered by pipeline. see I can understand this logic pre 2014, but post 2014 (i.e. Crimea), absolutely not the euros paid to putin were used to re-arm and those weapons are now being used in Ukraine and if he wins then Eastern Europe is next in line but yes germans saved 2% on their gas bills for 10 years
  - FpUser 3y ago
    >"and if he wins then Eastern Europe is next in line" I doubt Putin is suicidal. Eastern Europe is in NATO, hence protected.
    - blibble 3y ago
      it'll never be so obvious that NATO can declare it as an attack you've seen the playbook in ukraine twice now there will be an russian speaking minority in estonia/lithuania/... that will that rebel against anti russian oppression, guerilla warfare against the authorities, then they'll hold an rigged referendum, then a decade later the Russian government will formally annex what they've effectively controlled for years he won't send tanks across the border that will trigger Article 5

hirvi74 3y ago

> We are ruled by atlanticist neoliberals you put there in the first place You all created us. So, you all are technically responsible for your own problems. ;)