is slow startup really such a big issue for the use cases that clojure aims to address? I find most web server applications do not require fast startup times.

is slow startup really such a big issue for the use cases that clojure aims to address? I find most web server applications do not require fast startup times. its only recently with the advent of serverless that it is a potential problem. And for desktop applications, the jvm platform itself is the bigger friction, rather than slow startup times. People just didn't prefer the non-nativeness of the jvm for some reason.