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Miyazaki has used the art of animation to study the major problem of adult life
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- Olympicene 3y agohttps://archive.is/J0GER https://archive.is/J0GER
- dudus 3y agoMiyazaki's new movie "The boy and the heron" was released just last week in Japan. Not sure when it's coming to the west but it's the first movie by Miyazaki since 2013. It's also quite unique in the sense that there was no trailer or marketing for this movie. Even in Japan.
- UncleOxidant 3y ago> it's the first movie by Miyazaki since 2013. I was going to say "what about The Wind also Rises?"... and then looked it up and it was released in 2013. Hard to believe it's been 10 years.
- the_af 3y agoSame here! I thought The Wind Rises was recent. Is this what old age feels like?
- Forgeties79 3y agoOk so I'm not the only person who accidentally calls it The Wind *Also* Rises!
- samcheng 3y agoProbably confusion with Hemingway's The Sun Also Rises
- erulabs 3y agoThey do share a theme slightly. Surrender to the state of the world, stoic acceptance and such.
- samplatt 3y ago....I've watched the movie like four times and I think this is the first time I've noticed there's not 'also' in the title.
- sn41 3y agoIt's "The Wind Rises" - from Paul Valery's famous closing stanza of "Le cimetiere marin" (The Cemetery by the Sea) "Le vent se lève !… Il faut tenter de vivre !" "The wind rises... we must try to live" To me it denotes a sad, stoic acceptance that things are about to go down badly, but we must somehow survive. (https://www.babelmatrix.org/works/fr/Val%C3%A9ry,_Paul-1871/Le_cimeti%C3%A8re_marin/en/62005-The_Graveyard_By_The_Sea https://www.babelmatrix.org/works/fr/Val%C3%A9ry,_Paul-1871/...)
- glandium 3y ago"The boy and the heron" is quite removed from the original title, 君たちはどう生きるか, which would be "How do you live?" (plural you)
- bozhark 3y agoHow do yous live? or How do we live?
- jondwillis 3y agoy’all
- akprasad 3y ago"you" (plural) as in "you all," since "you" can also refer to just one person now that "thou" is no longer used [1]. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thou https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thou
- JohnBooty 3y agoDo you have any (linguistic) insight into why they changed the name for release outside of Japan? One certainty is that it references a Japanese book also entitled "How Do You Live?" that would likely be unknown outside of Japan. However, I was wondering if it was also an issue of connotation. The question, "How do you live?" can have a rather negative connotation in US English. It carries an accusatory connotation, as if the asker has a negative view of the subject's life or conduct and wants to know how the subject can bear to live or act in such a way. But I suspect that in Japanese, it may be a more literal and connotation-free question?
- ChainOfFools 3y agoI'm going to guess that for an English speaking market, there is a certain expectation for Miyazaki movies that has to do with whimsicality, children and some sort of anthropomorphized animal. and so that's the title format that they believe will sell better. Americans in particular are likely to be put off by something that sounds like it's questioning their life decisions.
- lupus9 3y ago>Not sure when it’s coming to the west Hacker news being an international community, I would say the relevant question is when it’s coming outside Japan. Let’s remember the average person lives neither in Japan / China nor in the west :-D
- nonethewiser 3y agoAverage location doesn’t really make sense but the typical hacker news reader probably does live in the West or Japan.
- echelon 3y agoNot entirely accurate as it counts only users with accounts that saw this post on a particular day and time and decided to participate: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30210378 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30210378 https://ae.studio/random/where-does-hacker-news-live https://ae.studio/random/where-does-hacker-news-live
- lupus9 3y agoThe use of average was just a joke. My point is that most people in the world live outside Japan and the West (however you want to use that term). Even if most people in hacker news belong to the West (not sure that is true) I do appreciate if the comments don’t take for granted that things are said from a western perspective.
- totetsu 3y agoI think the average person lives in Almaty, Kazakhstan
- JCharante 3y agoHacker News feels very dead outside of US/EU timezones so I agree with this.
- erwincoumans 3y agoIt was a pleasant surprise during our Japan trip and we went to watch 'How do you live' in the Toho Cinema Shinjuku on the second day. Very beautiful and touching movie, even with very limited Japanese skills.
- dang 3y agoRecent and related: Hayao Miyazaki’s How Do You Live is a beautiful relic – and the end of an era - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36760469 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36760469 - July 2023 (74 comments) Studio Ghibli to release Miyazaki’s final film with no trailers or promotion - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36314647 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36314647 - June 2023 (12 comments)
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- echelon 3y agoIf I had significant wealth, one of the things I'd do would be to try and commission Miyazaki to make another film in the same veins as Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind or Princess Mononoke. Maybe adapting his earlier Shuna no Tabi manga, which was also great. I'd even settle for something more kid-friendly like Castle in the Sky or Spirited Away. I know money probably wouldn't sway him, but a donation to something he cared about... maybe. It's just an unrealistic hope, anyway. I can't stand that there's nothing else like Princess Mononoke or Nausicaa. The world needs more Miyazaki, and especially his adult-themed sci-fi and fantasy. Miyazaki is a treasure. I'm going to miss having him.
- f_allwein 3y agoWell, he has a son who has made three movies so far, with mixed success (although I did like Tales from Earthsea). https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goro_Miyazaki https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goro_Miyazaki
- samplatt 3y agoTales From Earthsea was a passable Le Guin adaptation with some wonderful visual moments... but From Up on Poppy Hill is just drop-dead gorgeous. It's not a spectacle, but it's just amazingly visually rich, and tugs at every heart-string you have, to boot. I love it.
- mycologos 3y agoIf it's any consolation, I don't think Miyazaki could force Miyazaki to make another Miyazaki movie; having the right reasons seems to be intrinsic to his work.
- windowshopping 3y agoI don't think Miyazaki is available for commission.
- zshrdlu 3y agoHave you tried asking him nicely?
- mycologos 3y agoPart-way through I thought, oh no, this is another overwritten thinkpiece that will ultimately conclude with "you see, the secret message of this art is ... capitalism is bad". But no, the story here is more interesting. I don't want to do it a disservice by saying there's a discrete "point", but it hadn't occurred to me that the spirit of Miyazaki's films could only be arrived at by somebody who both retained enough of a child's sensibility to spend all of his life on animation and accumulated enough of an adult's sensibility to do so, apparently, to the effective exclusion of much of those extra-vocational things that are usually said to make life enjoyable. Except for making ramen, at least [1]. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BPTNdmdJSc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BPTNdmdJSc
- byw 3y ago>retained enough of a child's sensibility to spend all of his life on animation I think most passion projects come from the inner child to some extent.
- coolandsmartrr 3y agoI just saw Miyazaki's latest "The Boy and the Heron." I'll refrain from commenting on it as I intend to respect Studio Ghibli's intention of giving audiences a fresh viewing without any prior notions. Like with most Miyazaki films, the entirety of Japan is rushing into theaters. Tickets are difficult to get. I wish there were many more filmmakers that captured the public's attention like this.
- michaeltsai 3y agoYes, the Miyazaki films are very rich and thoughtful, found new meaning across multiple viewings
- freilanzer 3y agoI thought this was about Dark Souls.