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Let’s not give FDA, NIH and other standard and quality control monitoring agencies pass while food conpanies did this. They also purposely pushed “fat is bad” w

Let’s not give FDA, NIH and other standard and quality control monitoring agencies pass while food conpanies did this. They also purposely pushed “fat is bad” while the whole diet chart with the carb/milk and dairy was plain misleading. And they knew they were lying, most of their propositions were pushed by one guys research. And of course big pharma always sponsored and benefited these types of research.

api 3y ago
When I see populist cranks getting traction in the culture and in politics, I find myself being as angry at the establishment for this as I am at the cranks or perhaps even more. I feel like our main establishment entities like the FDA, NIH, major universities, pharma companies, etc. still aren't willing to take any responsibility for why people don't trust them anymore. Cranks are filling the vacuum, but the cranks didn't create the vacuum.
- simple-thoughts 3y ago
  It’s always funny to me when I see institutions publish reports in the credibility crisis, because their solution is always to do more media operations. But the lack of trust comes from the behavior of these institutions and their use of the media to cover up their mistakes in the first place!
  - api 3y ago
    They’re stuck in the old broadcast media era. It’ll probably take a generational shift in who is running these things.
- gsatic 3y ago
  Broadcast transmissions have always been regulated world over, not cuz the Regulators are great or act fast or are trusted, but cuz the Cost to Mass Broadcast, whatever shit occurs to a 3 inch chimp brain, is much greater than 0. The cost to multiply has always been the real barrier to prevent cancer from spreading faster than the immune system can react. Whether it is setting up a printing press and distributing newspapers/books or radio/tv station, movie studio broadcasts, it used to cost a lot. Even with chat/email/phone/sms there is a high cost. The email list of everyone on the planet is easy to assemble these days. But try emailing everyone on the list every few minutes. The whole story breaks down when Youtube/Facebook/TikTok made Cost to Broadcast 0 for everyone.
- ourmandave 3y ago
  Cranks are filling the vacuum, but the cranks didn't create the vacuum. lol, really? The former president (still lying about the 2020 election), Fox News (paid near $1B settlement for lying), and the Republican party repeatedly saying all the Federal institutions can't be trusted because they're run by the Deep State or crooked liberals. Which cranks didn't create the distrust again?
  - api 3y ago
    There’d never have been a Trump without Bush II and the Iraq war or the bank bailouts, to name just two things that destroyed trust in institutions. Populist demagoguery is an opportunistic infection. It’s taking hold because the host is weak. I still maintain that Bush II was the worst president of the last hundred years. Trump may look superficially worse, but Bush caused Trump.
    - ourmandave 3y ago
      Bush II and the lies about WMDs was amazingly bad. But Trump is still lying about the 2020 election. And before leaving office installed Barry Myers (a climate change denier) to run NOAA because he got all butthurt from sharpie gate. And clowns are running on "defund the <insert fed dept here>", because reasons. It sounds very much more pro-active than ever.
      - mardifoufs 3y ago
        The Trump lies didn't cause an entire region to collapse in war and cause hundreds of thousands of deaths. The only way to think of bush as being better than Trump is if you are completely neck deep into American partisan politics. Lying about elections is not worse than a war that ruined entire generations in the middle east. Not even close actually.
        0dayz 3y ago
        The middle east was on the verge of collapse/total war before the Bush administration. And Iraq played a large roll in causing it to happen. People looking back if 9/11 didn't happen towards Bush administration would've been a lot more positive due to no incentive to form war on terror.
mihaaly 3y ago
You cannot regulate away everything that may be harmful or unhealthy (also has personal variations). Perhaps putting the efforts into education, teaching what is what and more importantly why? And who wants to influence/manipulate you for their own benefit while causing you harm? I ate lots of sugar as a child slowly steered away by good advice, avoiding it by the time became young adult and since (decades). Informed self reliance is much more reliable than relying on a regulatory 'father figure'.

api 3y ago

When I see populist cranks getting traction in the culture and in politics, I find myself being as angry at the establishment for this as I am at the cranks or perhaps even more. I feel like our main establishment entities like the FDA, NIH, major universities, pharma companies, etc. still aren't willing to take any responsibility for why people don't trust them anymore. Cranks are filling the vacuum, but the cranks didn't create the vacuum.

simple-thoughts 3y ago
It’s always funny to me when I see institutions publish reports in the credibility crisis, because their solution is always to do more media operations. But the lack of trust comes from the behavior of these institutions and their use of the media to cover up their mistakes in the first place!
- api 3y ago
  They’re stuck in the old broadcast media era. It’ll probably take a generational shift in who is running these things.
gsatic 3y ago
Broadcast transmissions have always been regulated world over, not cuz the Regulators are great or act fast or are trusted, but cuz the Cost to Mass Broadcast, whatever shit occurs to a 3 inch chimp brain, is much greater than 0. The cost to multiply has always been the real barrier to prevent cancer from spreading faster than the immune system can react. Whether it is setting up a printing press and distributing newspapers/books or radio/tv station, movie studio broadcasts, it used to cost a lot. Even with chat/email/phone/sms there is a high cost. The email list of everyone on the planet is easy to assemble these days. But try emailing everyone on the list every few minutes. The whole story breaks down when Youtube/Facebook/TikTok made Cost to Broadcast 0 for everyone.
ourmandave 3y ago
Cranks are filling the vacuum, but the cranks didn't create the vacuum. lol, really? The former president (still lying about the 2020 election), Fox News (paid near $1B settlement for lying), and the Republican party repeatedly saying all the Federal institutions can't be trusted because they're run by the Deep State or crooked liberals. Which cranks didn't create the distrust again?
- api 3y ago
  There’d never have been a Trump without Bush II and the Iraq war or the bank bailouts, to name just two things that destroyed trust in institutions. Populist demagoguery is an opportunistic infection. It’s taking hold because the host is weak. I still maintain that Bush II was the worst president of the last hundred years. Trump may look superficially worse, but Bush caused Trump.
  - ourmandave 3y ago
    Bush II and the lies about WMDs was amazingly bad. But Trump is still lying about the 2020 election. And before leaving office installed Barry Myers (a climate change denier) to run NOAA because he got all butthurt from sharpie gate. And clowns are running on "defund the <insert fed dept here>", because reasons. It sounds very much more pro-active than ever.
    - mardifoufs 3y ago
      The Trump lies didn't cause an entire region to collapse in war and cause hundreds of thousands of deaths. The only way to think of bush as being better than Trump is if you are completely neck deep into American partisan politics. Lying about elections is not worse than a war that ruined entire generations in the middle east. Not even close actually.
      - 0dayz 3y ago
        The middle east was on the verge of collapse/total war before the Bush administration. And Iraq played a large roll in causing it to happen. People looking back if 9/11 didn't happen towards Bush administration would've been a lot more positive due to no incentive to form war on terror.

mihaaly 3y ago

You cannot regulate away everything that may be harmful or unhealthy (also has personal variations). Perhaps putting the efforts into education, teaching what is what and more importantly why? And who wants to influence/manipulate you for their own benefit while causing you harm? I ate lots of sugar as a child slowly steered away by good advice, avoiding it by the time became young adult and since (decades). Informed self reliance is much more reliable than relying on a regulatory 'father figure'.