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If nobody wanted this they wouldn’t have done it. There are lots of cool uses for NFTs in game settings. Now that some of the major hype and scams have died d

by d1str0 3y ago

If nobody wanted this they wouldn’t have done it. There are lots of cool uses for NFTs in game settings. Now that some of the major hype and scams have died down, this is probably the best time for this to go live.

wnevets 3y ago
> There are lots of cool uses for NFTs in game settings. Like what?
- newaccount74 3y ago
  According to Google, "more engaging and immersive digital experiences".
  - frumper 3y ago
    Brought to you by the people selling NFTs.
  - itisit 3y ago
    Words as bereft of substance as “cool stuff”.
- thesuperbigfrog 3y ago
  Microtransactions so you can spend money for worthless on-chain "collectable" crap. Each one is procedurally-generated with a random seed and digitally signed so it's "unique" despite the millions per second that can be cranked out by a Raspberry Pi.
  - nomel 3y ago
    > Each one is procedurally-generated with a random seed This is, obviously, not true. There are deck building card games that have fixed cards. Imagine Magic, but the game loads cards that are from your wallet, that you can pass to someone else wallet, by trading/selling outside the app (which, apparently, is why Apple won't allow it).
    - wnevets 3y ago
      > Imagine Magic, but the game loads cards that are from your wallet, that you can pass to someone else wallet, by trading/selling outside the app Doesn't that already exist without NTFs or crypto, e.g. the steam marketplace.
      - nomel 3y ago
        Yes, to some degree. Alternative implementations of a public, "trustable", transaction record weren't what I was replying to. I was replying to the use case of one.
dmbche 3y ago
Please list me a few good things that can only be done with NFTs
- nailer 3y ago
  Paying digital artists.
  - aflag 3y ago
    People have been doing so on fiverr way before nfts
    - throwaway675309 3y ago
      Agreed. Also Patreon, subscribestar, and on and on and on. NFTs are solving for a non-existent problem.
      - rkho 3y ago
        I agree. We've had physical cash and the postal service for centuries now. Platforms like Patreon, Subscribestar, etc. are also solving nonexistent problems. We can already pay artists by mailing them cash or a check, there's no reason for any of these technologies to exist.
      - nailer 3y ago
        None of those platforms solve the scarcity issue, so none of them result in artists getting paid reasonably.
        aflag 3y ago
        Not sure it does. The NFT itself is scarce, but not the art. That's different from the real world where the art itself is scarce.
    - anony23 3y ago
      Fiver is a nice way to finance some tacos, meanwhile NFTs have enabled artists to make life changing money.
thaumasiotes 3y ago
> If nobody wanted this they wouldn’t have done it. The simplest model falsifying that idea would be "people used to want it, Google started the project, and the project is now complete." Which is pretty compatible with the original claim of "Nobody wants this! Not now."
throwaway675309 3y ago
"There are lots of cool uses for NFTs in game settings." Rolls eyes. NAME ONE.
- idlewords 3y ago
  Warning you off scammy games.
- nomel 3y ago
  Tradable cards, characters, items. Since it's external, rather than in some company database, it's possible to integrate them into other games. I've never owned an NFT, so maybe I don't understand, but in game items/whatever seem like an actual use case, if it's considered a public database, with transaction tracing. There's plenty of evidence that people want to be able to trade/sell in game items, considering there's an existing industry around it, unrelated to NFTs.
  - frumper 3y ago
    What games accept NFT items from other games?
    - JumpCrisscross 3y ago
      Also, why would you accept another game's NFT? What is the present value of the marginal users who choose to play your game because it accepts their NFT avatar?
      - rkho 3y ago
        [flagged]
        deleted 3y ago
        [deleted]
        piva00 3y ago
        A strawman doesn't help your argument. There was nothing in GP's comment stating anything covered by your hyperbole. People can implement whatever they want if they are curious, the discussion here is focused on adoption, and based on technical facts that would hinder adoption we can say that it's probably never going to be a reality where NFTs are the solution for cross-game item trading. Not sure why you needed this passive-aggressive hyperbole, I don't feel GP's comment was that offensive to require this, do you have any issues with people criticising NFTs?
JumpCrisscross 3y ago
> If nobody wanted this they wouldn’t have done it It's gambling with a cheap veneer. Nobody wants or needs to pay $1 for 95¢ when they bet on a roulette wheel [1], but we do. [1] https://rss.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1740-9713.2006.00142.x https://rss.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1740-...

by d1str0 3y ago

wnevets 3y ago

> There are lots of cool uses for NFTs in game settings. Like what?

newaccount74 3y ago
According to Google, "more engaging and immersive digital experiences".
- frumper 3y ago
  Brought to you by the people selling NFTs.
- itisit 3y ago
  Words as bereft of substance as “cool stuff”.
thesuperbigfrog 3y ago
Microtransactions so you can spend money for worthless on-chain "collectable" crap. Each one is procedurally-generated with a random seed and digitally signed so it's "unique" despite the millions per second that can be cranked out by a Raspberry Pi.
- nomel 3y ago
  > Each one is procedurally-generated with a random seed This is, obviously, not true. There are deck building card games that have fixed cards. Imagine Magic, but the game loads cards that are from your wallet, that you can pass to someone else wallet, by trading/selling outside the app (which, apparently, is why Apple won't allow it).
  - wnevets 3y ago
    > Imagine Magic, but the game loads cards that are from your wallet, that you can pass to someone else wallet, by trading/selling outside the app Doesn't that already exist without NTFs or crypto, e.g. the steam marketplace.
    - nomel 3y ago
      Yes, to some degree. Alternative implementations of a public, "trustable", transaction record weren't what I was replying to. I was replying to the use case of one.

dmbche 3y ago

Please list me a few good things that can only be done with NFTs

nailer 3y ago
Paying digital artists.
- aflag 3y ago
  People have been doing so on fiverr way before nfts
  - throwaway675309 3y ago
    Agreed. Also Patreon, subscribestar, and on and on and on. NFTs are solving for a non-existent problem.
    - rkho 3y ago
      I agree. We've had physical cash and the postal service for centuries now. Platforms like Patreon, Subscribestar, etc. are also solving nonexistent problems. We can already pay artists by mailing them cash or a check, there's no reason for any of these technologies to exist.
    - nailer 3y ago
      None of those platforms solve the scarcity issue, so none of them result in artists getting paid reasonably.
      - aflag 3y ago
        Not sure it does. The NFT itself is scarce, but not the art. That's different from the real world where the art itself is scarce.
  - anony23 3y ago
    Fiver is a nice way to finance some tacos, meanwhile NFTs have enabled artists to make life changing money.

thaumasiotes 3y ago

> If nobody wanted this they wouldn’t have done it. The simplest model falsifying that idea would be "people used to want it, Google started the project, and the project is now complete." Which is pretty compatible with the original claim of "Nobody wants this! Not now."

throwaway675309 3y ago

"There are lots of cool uses for NFTs in game settings." Rolls eyes. NAME ONE.

idlewords 3y ago
Warning you off scammy games.
nomel 3y ago
Tradable cards, characters, items. Since it's external, rather than in some company database, it's possible to integrate them into other games. I've never owned an NFT, so maybe I don't understand, but in game items/whatever seem like an actual use case, if it's considered a public database, with transaction tracing. There's plenty of evidence that people want to be able to trade/sell in game items, considering there's an existing industry around it, unrelated to NFTs.
- frumper 3y ago
  What games accept NFT items from other games?
  - JumpCrisscross 3y ago
    Also, why would you accept another game's NFT? What is the present value of the marginal users who choose to play your game because it accepts their NFT avatar?
    - rkho 3y ago
      [flagged]
      - deleted 3y ago
        [deleted]
      - piva00 3y ago
        A strawman doesn't help your argument. There was nothing in GP's comment stating anything covered by your hyperbole. People can implement whatever they want if they are curious, the discussion here is focused on adoption, and based on technical facts that would hinder adoption we can say that it's probably never going to be a reality where NFTs are the solution for cross-game item trading. Not sure why you needed this passive-aggressive hyperbole, I don't feel GP's comment was that offensive to require this, do you have any issues with people criticising NFTs?

JumpCrisscross 3y ago

> If nobody wanted this they wouldn’t have done it It's gambling with a cheap veneer. Nobody wants or needs to pay $1 for 95¢ when they bet on a roulette wheel [1], but we do. [1] https://rss.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1740-9713.2006.00142.x https://rss.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1740-...