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> I don't see why we need to conform to a centralized idiom. Exactly for the same reason why humanity has come up with an idea of standards. Same set of reason

by allarm 3y ago

> I don't see why we need to conform to a centralized idiom. Exactly for the same reason why humanity has come up with an idea of standards. Same set of reasons I would even say. > But I wouldn't impose the same principles to all applications just so it will be slightly more familiar to some people. This is because design choices are more important to you than users' comfort and productivity. Some argue that it should be the other way around, though.

eviks 3y ago
> same reason why humanity has come up with an idea of standards and the same reasons are there why humanity has come up with the idea of breaking or ignoring bad standards You can't resolve these type of issues in the abstract, some olden design paradigms are better than what we have now, but then there were plenty of awful decisions "standardized" as well
- allarm 3y ago
  That’s not “breaking”, that’s “ignorant disregard without sufficient understanding of what the standard actually is”.
  - eviks 3y ago
    Nope, "smart disregard for bad UI practices standardized by ignorant people of the past" is also there
    - allarm 3y ago
      Nope, it is not. The only reason you can say things I quoted below is because you hate and disrespect your own users. You should not "innovate" just for the sake of innovation. Any change in the design and UX should be the least painful for the user. If you do it the other way around it's nothing but narcissism. > I don't see why we need to conform to a centralized idiom. > But I wouldn't impose the same principles to all applications just so it will be slightly more familiar to some people.
      - eviks 3y ago
        Another reason is that you respect the users and want to offer them a superior UI even though something bad is more familiar > You should not "innovate" just for the sake of innovation But you can innovate to fix "bad UI practices standardized by ignorant people of the past"
        allarm 3y ago
        Also you can reiterate the same line over and over again without thinking. Also works for some.

by allarm 3y ago

eviks 3y ago

> same reason why humanity has come up with an idea of standards and the same reasons are there why humanity has come up with the idea of breaking or ignoring bad standards You can't resolve these type of issues in the abstract, some olden design paradigms are better than what we have now, but then there were plenty of awful decisions "standardized" as well

allarm 3y ago
That’s not “breaking”, that’s “ignorant disregard without sufficient understanding of what the standard actually is”.
- eviks 3y ago
  Nope, "smart disregard for bad UI practices standardized by ignorant people of the past" is also there
  - allarm 3y ago
    Nope, it is not. The only reason you can say things I quoted below is because you hate and disrespect your own users. You should not "innovate" just for the sake of innovation. Any change in the design and UX should be the least painful for the user. If you do it the other way around it's nothing but narcissism. > I don't see why we need to conform to a centralized idiom. > But I wouldn't impose the same principles to all applications just so it will be slightly more familiar to some people.
    - eviks 3y ago
      Another reason is that you respect the users and want to offer them a superior UI even though something bad is more familiar > You should not "innovate" just for the sake of innovation But you can innovate to fix "bad UI practices standardized by ignorant people of the past"
      - allarm 3y ago
        Also you can reiterate the same line over and over again without thinking. Also works for some.