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This a really interesting spin on reality

by 93po 3y ago

BoorishBears 3y ago
I think this commentary was pithier in your head... https://hackernoon.com/how-openai-transitioned-from-a-nonprofit-to-a-$29b-for-profit-company https://hackernoon.com/how-openai-transitioned-from-a-nonpro...
- Dylan16807 3y ago
  A "capped" profit of 100x is absolutely ridiculous. That is not even the slightest attempt to stay in the same ballpark as nonprofit. Blaming any loss of Elon money for that is spin. And he still gave them a hundred million.
  - BoorishBears 3y ago
    Not sure what you're on about, both my comment and the article are about how they went for-profit. They went for-profit because they needed to raise. They raised after Elon reneged a fraction of the way into his promise of $1B. (and not 100MM deep: he silently revised his figures after TC started digging.) It's not complicated but you seem to want to make it complicated.
    - Dylan16807 3y ago
      They didn't need to go that far, and they gaslit people about it. Elon is not responsible for either of those. And was their existing money pile actually not enough?
valval 3y ago
If it involves Elon being a bad guy, it is certain to have HNers salivating at the thought.
- fnordpiglet 3y ago
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  - 93po 3y ago
    Can we please stop trying to diagnose mental health issues when we have no background to do so and don’t actually know the patient
    - fnordpiglet 3y ago
      My apologies, however Elon has identified as bipolar publicly. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4746914/Elon-Musk-tweets-depression-bipolar-disorder.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4746914/Elon-Musk... As someone who has bipolar as well, I think it’s an important thing to talk about and glad he has. Now that he has, I hope we can too without being shut down. It’s not uncommon in our field but it has a huge stigma attached to it that’s unhelpful to the people with it, or to the people are are affected by a friends, coworkers, or loved ones mania or depression. When I’m under a lot of stress I tend towards mania, especially when it’s “good stress” like an achievement or great new job or something really exciting to work on. Inexorably I get drawn into a pit of despair, especially as I start to realize the impact my mania has had on my relationships and reputation. I have a good network and good self awareness built over 30 years of meditation and Buddhist study, so the impacts are mitigated. I suspect if people understood bipolar and were willing to discuss and learn, we might understand better what Elon does and why. He’s not bad. He’s just different. Bipolar is considered an dimension of neurodiversity, and like other aspects like autism, is nothing to be ashamed of.
      - 93po 3y ago
        He literally tweeted that he’s maybe not medically bipolar. Don’t take daily mail headlines at face value
- CamperBob2 3y ago
  At this point, after attempting to start a literal fight with Zuckerberg, Musk is proposing a penis-measuring contest. He appears to be decompensating in real time. If that's salivation fodder, so be it, but it just makes me sad. You hate to see it happen... or at least I do.

This a really interesting spin on reality

by 93po 3y ago

This a really interesting spin on reality

I think this commentary was pithier in your head... https://hackernoon.com/how-openai-transitioned-from-a-nonprofit-to-a-$29b-for-profit-company https://hackernoon.com/how-openai-transitioned-from-a-nonpro...

Dylan16807 3y ago
A "capped" profit of 100x is absolutely ridiculous. That is not even the slightest attempt to stay in the same ballpark as nonprofit. Blaming any loss of Elon money for that is spin. And he still gave them a hundred million.
- BoorishBears 3y ago
  Not sure what you're on about, both my comment and the article are about how they went for-profit. They went for-profit because they needed to raise. They raised after Elon reneged a fraction of the way into his promise of $1B. (and not 100MM deep: he silently revised his figures after TC started digging.) It's not complicated but you seem to want to make it complicated.
  - Dylan16807 3y ago
    They didn't need to go that far, and they gaslit people about it. Elon is not responsible for either of those. And was their existing money pile actually not enough?

valval 3y ago

If it involves Elon being a bad guy, it is certain to have HNers salivating at the thought.

fnordpiglet 3y ago
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- 93po 3y ago
  Can we please stop trying to diagnose mental health issues when we have no background to do so and don’t actually know the patient
  - fnordpiglet 3y ago
    My apologies, however Elon has identified as bipolar publicly. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4746914/Elon-Musk-tweets-depression-bipolar-disorder.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4746914/Elon-Musk... As someone who has bipolar as well, I think it’s an important thing to talk about and glad he has. Now that he has, I hope we can too without being shut down. It’s not uncommon in our field but it has a huge stigma attached to it that’s unhelpful to the people with it, or to the people are are affected by a friends, coworkers, or loved ones mania or depression. When I’m under a lot of stress I tend towards mania, especially when it’s “good stress” like an achievement or great new job or something really exciting to work on. Inexorably I get drawn into a pit of despair, especially as I start to realize the impact my mania has had on my relationships and reputation. I have a good network and good self awareness built over 30 years of meditation and Buddhist study, so the impacts are mitigated. I suspect if people understood bipolar and were willing to discuss and learn, we might understand better what Elon does and why. He’s not bad. He’s just different. Bipolar is considered an dimension of neurodiversity, and like other aspects like autism, is nothing to be ashamed of.
    - 93po 3y ago
      He literally tweeted that he’s maybe not medically bipolar. Don’t take daily mail headlines at face value
CamperBob2 3y ago
At this point, after attempting to start a literal fight with Zuckerberg, Musk is proposing a penis-measuring contest. He appears to be decompensating in real time. If that's salivation fodder, so be it, but it just makes me sad. You hate to see it happen... or at least I do.