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It seems inevitable in the future I won't have a choice whether my info (however personal) gets sucked up into some corporate database via AI chatbots. Even if

It seems inevitable in the future I won't have a choice whether my info (however personal) gets sucked up into some corporate database via AI chatbots. Even if I were to refuse to use one personally, I have no control whether the nurse I talk to is just typing what I tell them into a chatbot on their laptop.

seanmcdirmid 3y ago
Or even the doctor. They could consult with a chatbot rather than other doctors in refining their own opinion. I think that is more likely in developed countries, where this is more likely going to be a tool to be used by doctors directly, a more efficient way to sift through 10s if thousands if maybe relevant published studies and literature.
amf12 3y ago
FWIW, healthcare has strong regulations around data. If your provider uses an approved chatbot (vs using public ChatGPT), there is more or less a guarantee that your data won't be sucked up by a corp. I'd rather my doctor use a negotiated and approved model/tool than an unapproved one.
- breadwinner 3y ago
  > there is more or less a guarantee that your data won't be sucked up by a corp Not true. "The HIPAA Privacy Rule establishes the conditions under which protected health information may be used or disclosed by covered entities for research purposes" [1]. Your de-identified data can be sucked up by a corp for research purposes. You are protected because your identity will be removed before data is used for research. https://www.hhs.gov/hipaa/for-professionals/special-topics/research/index.html https://www.hhs.gov/hipaa/for-professionals/special-topics/r...
  - amf12 3y ago
    Sure, I was emphasizing on the "however personal" part in the original comment. I am ok if my de-identified data is used for research.
cmiles74 3y ago
Don't be distracted by today's excitement over chatbots. Companies are out there consolidating this data right now through traditional methods. Oracle, for example, has been saying the quiet part out loud. https://www.forbes.com/sites/saibala/2022/06/26/larry-ellisons-latest-ambition-create-a-national-healthcare-database/?sh=ae4849651141 https://www.forbes.com/sites/saibala/2022/06/26/larry-elliso...

seanmcdirmid 3y ago

Or even the doctor. They could consult with a chatbot rather than other doctors in refining their own opinion. I think that is more likely in developed countries, where this is more likely going to be a tool to be used by doctors directly, a more efficient way to sift through 10s if thousands if maybe relevant published studies and literature.

amf12 3y ago

FWIW, healthcare has strong regulations around data. If your provider uses an approved chatbot (vs using public ChatGPT), there is more or less a guarantee that your data won't be sucked up by a corp. I'd rather my doctor use a negotiated and approved model/tool than an unapproved one.

breadwinner 3y ago
> there is more or less a guarantee that your data won't be sucked up by a corp Not true. "The HIPAA Privacy Rule establishes the conditions under which protected health information may be used or disclosed by covered entities for research purposes" [1]. Your de-identified data can be sucked up by a corp for research purposes. You are protected because your identity will be removed before data is used for research. https://www.hhs.gov/hipaa/for-professionals/special-topics/research/index.html https://www.hhs.gov/hipaa/for-professionals/special-topics/r...
- amf12 3y ago
  Sure, I was emphasizing on the "however personal" part in the original comment. I am ok if my de-identified data is used for research.

cmiles74 3y ago

Don't be distracted by today's excitement over chatbots. Companies are out there consolidating this data right now through traditional methods. Oracle, for example, has been saying the quiet part out loud. https://www.forbes.com/sites/saibala/2022/06/26/larry-ellisons-latest-ambition-create-a-national-healthcare-database/?sh=ae4849651141 https://www.forbes.com/sites/saibala/2022/06/26/larry-elliso...