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So does it mean it's not possible to have popular apps like whatsapp or Tinder on this? I also wish it was just a phone with much less performance for a smalle

by jokoon 3y ago

So does it mean it's not possible to have popular apps like whatsapp or Tinder on this? I also wish it was just a phone with much less performance for a smaller price. I want something durable and repairable, not something fast, Wirth's law is very important to consider when consider software and hardware. I hope they will make such phone, one day, because I am not spending that much money for a phone. I bought a 150 euro phone and it already lasted 3 years, because even if a phone becomes obsolete, it is still cheaper, per year, to use crappy phones, than to use a durable expensive phone. If your really care about fairness and the environment, make lightweight hardware and software.

jokowueu 3y ago
It has microG you can download the apps you want including the play store
frollo 3y ago
I've got a FP3 (so the older model) and I have had no problems with any app. I don't use Tinder, but Whatsapp works as good as on any phone I've ever owned. As for the cheapness, I've been keeping a running tab of how much the repair is costing me vs how much it would have cost with a normal phone (ballpark estimate) and, considering the phone price, I'm currently saving about 200€, even factoring in the phone price. The biggest expense is shipping because I live in the middle of nowhere and I can easily get 10€ of shipping on a 15€ spare part (which is why I'm not replacing the protective cover even though it looks like shit).
zerox7felf 3y ago
I have been using a FP4 for about a year with /e/-os, and it has been pretty ok so far. I don't use many (if any) of the /e/-os cloud features, so can't speak for those. Other apps have been working fine w/ microG and the custom app store (which combines the play store and fdroid). The only issue I can think of off the top of my head is google translate not working. Other Gapps (Gmail, yt, lens, etc) seem to work fine, as do pretty much all others I have tried. Unsure how well in-app purchases work. Some /e/-os apps have UI quirks... But nothing is worse than "ok" in my view. Ymmv. Not sure I buy that lightweight phones would necessarily be better for the environment? Surely repairability is key?
- jokoon 3y ago
  Cost and affordability. Also a less powerful CPU has a longer battery life.
dopidopHN 3y ago
Or keep your phone. I’ve been using a iPhone 5s since 8 years now. Support dropper a year ago iirc. So that’s not advisable anymore. But I’m still happy with the phone and most things still work

by jokoon 3y ago

jokowueu 3y ago

It has microG you can download the apps you want including the play store

frollo 3y ago

I've got a FP3 (so the older model) and I have had no problems with any app. I don't use Tinder, but Whatsapp works as good as on any phone I've ever owned. As for the cheapness, I've been keeping a running tab of how much the repair is costing me vs how much it would have cost with a normal phone (ballpark estimate) and, considering the phone price, I'm currently saving about 200€, even factoring in the phone price. The biggest expense is shipping because I live in the middle of nowhere and I can easily get 10€ of shipping on a 15€ spare part (which is why I'm not replacing the protective cover even though it looks like shit).

zerox7felf 3y ago

I have been using a FP4 for about a year with /e/-os, and it has been pretty ok so far. I don't use many (if any) of the /e/-os cloud features, so can't speak for those. Other apps have been working fine w/ microG and the custom app store (which combines the play store and fdroid). The only issue I can think of off the top of my head is google translate not working. Other Gapps (Gmail, yt, lens, etc) seem to work fine, as do pretty much all others I have tried. Unsure how well in-app purchases work. Some /e/-os apps have UI quirks... But nothing is worse than "ok" in my view. Ymmv. Not sure I buy that lightweight phones would necessarily be better for the environment? Surely repairability is key?

jokoon 3y ago
Cost and affordability. Also a less powerful CPU has a longer battery life.

dopidopHN 3y ago

Or keep your phone. I’ve been using a iPhone 5s since 8 years now. Support dropper a year ago iirc. So that’s not advisable anymore. But I’m still happy with the phone and most things still work