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The editorialized title "Meta pledges Three-Year sponsorship for Python if GIL removal is accepted" seems misleading at best. The actual wording was: > support
by jsnell 3y ago
The editorialized title "Meta pledges Three-Year sponsorship for Python if GIL removal is accepted" seems misleading at best. The actual wording was:
> support in the form of three engineer-years [...] between the acceptance of PEP 703 and the end of 2025
It seems much more like them pledging engineer time from Meta employees to work on this project than sponsorship, not a monetary sponsorship like the title implies.
- o1y32 3y agoYep, the original comment was very carefully worded.
- meitros 3y agoAnd also in direct response to a comment from GvR, not something out of the blue
- derbOac 3y agoYes, and the comment is to request help essentially: "it would be great if Meta or another tech company could spare some engineers with established CPython internals experience to help the core dev team with this work."
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- hn_20591249 3y agoOffering dedicated specific CPython resources (aka. enginneering hours) is worth more than a monetary sponsorship in my view.
- xcdzvyn 3y agoRight, but that's not the topic at hand. For better or for worse the title is a little misleading.
- smeyer 3y agoThat also depends on the scale of the monetary sponsorship, though. If I heard something like "Meta/Google/Whoever is the main sponsor of Python for the next 3 years", I'd assume (perhaps incorrectly) much more money per year than it takes to hire a single engineer. On the other hand, someone just saying "sure, we'll do the silver tier at your next few conferences" is worth a whole lot less than one engineer. Regardless, the previous commenter's point stands that the title could be a lot more informative.
- westurner 3y agoHow do I diff colesbury/nogil-3.12 with python/cpython? https://github.com/colesbury/nogil-3.12 https://github.com/colesbury/nogil-3.12
- nunuvit 3y agoThe title is fine. Sponsorship doesn't need to include a money a transfer.
- lukeschlather 3y agoIt sounds like Facebook is volunteering 3 person-years which is nothing resembling a 3 year sponsorship. We're talking at least an order of magnitude difference. 3 person-years sounds like one team at Facebook working on the GIL for 3 months.
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- nunuvit 3y agoIt's until the end of 2025, about 2.5 years from now. The comment was by GVR, who is presumably adding up all the pledged time to estimate whether there's enough in total.
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