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What I'd love is a project for Windows 11 that gives me back full control of which updates I download and when I reboot. I've been living with vague registry ha

What I'd love is a project for Windows 11 that gives me back full control of which updates I download and when I reboot. I've been living with vague registry hacks and the "pause for 5 weeks" button but they're getting less effective.

dmitrygr 3y ago
Use registry editor to export And then delete wupdsvc and waasMedicSvc services. (HKLM/system/currentControlSet/Services) Reboot. Enjoy. Whenever you want updates, double click exported “reg” file and reboot. Allow updates to install. Delete services again.
p0w3n3d 3y ago
You are the beta tester. While you're using "your" windows, you're performing a task as an unofficial employee. If something is free for you, you are the product that is sold.
- doodlesdev 3y ago
  Windows is not free.
nikanj 3y ago
Just buy a pro/enterprise version, they support the GPOs to block updates
Joeri 3y ago
Windows pro managed through intune should give you that control, though it is a bit of an awkward path for a single user.
rwaksmunski 3y ago
Lookup Windows 10 LTSC
jonathantf2 3y ago
Not sure if this is because I run the Pro version but I've never ever ever once had Windows 10 or 11 reboot to install updates on it's own.
ailurooo 3y ago
The genuine answer is that you won't get this functionality unless you use windows enterprise. Which of course you can't purchase.. This functionality is locked to just the enterprise and will likely never change..
- LoganDark 3y ago
  > unless you use windows enterprise. Which of course you can't purchase.. I recently purchased a Windows 10 Enterprise key from a website called "RoyalCDKeys" for under $4. It worked to upgrade my Windows 11 installation. Basically any reseller will work but only if they use a payment processor other than PayPal. PayPal will only end in misery and your money being lost.
- abwizz 3y ago
  "service channels" are not a thing anymore?
- londons_explore 3y ago
  > can't purchase There are certain high seas where such things are plentiful.
  - hospitalJail 3y ago
    This is equally as dangerous.
    - windowspiracy 3y ago
      Eh, not really. You can download a windows pro ISO straight from microsoft [0], install it, and then upgrade it to enterprise using the kms client key [1]. That can then be activated using an open source kms server emulator [2] that has a reasonable amount of code you can audit if you're extremely paranoid. If you don't want to go through the hassle of installing and then upgrading I'm also pretty sure you can upgrade one of the images in the wim offline using dism. 0: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 (will serve you an iso directly instead of the media creation tool if you give it a linux user agent) 1: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/get-started/kms-client-activation-keys https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/get-started... 2: https://github.com/Wind4/vlmcsd/tree/master https://github.com/Wind4/vlmcsd/tree/master
stalfosknight 3y ago
This should go without saying but this flagrant disregard for what users want is going to continue and get worse as long as people keep buying and using Windows. I wonder pretty often why people put themselves through this crap to use Windows.
- pessimizer 3y ago
  Because that's what comes on computers, and that's what the software they need runs on. The obvious reasons. If you want to fix that, work in antitrust, work on getting at least governments and public schools to choose FOSS solutions, work on improving FOSS solutions, work on Debian installers...
  - stalfosknight 3y ago
    Windows didn't come preinstalled on my Mac.
- runesofdoom 3y ago
  A possibly illustrative example: A year or three ago, my uncle (mid-50s, telco IT manager, started on a Commodore in the 80s) decided he'd try Mint instead of upgrading from Windows 7. He got it installed and running, and decided he wanted to burn an audio CD. His install of Mint didn't come with any application to accomplish this. He got something recommended installed easily enough, but it only supported FLAC, not his MP3s. So he removed that and got some different CD burning software that did support his MP3s, but was set to Finnish by default. He got enough Finnish translated to get it changed to English, and then ran into some sort of driver/support issue for his particular CD burner. At that point, he did the free upgrade to Windows 10 and then burned his CD in less total time than he'd spent not burning a CD via Mint.
  - vel0city 3y ago
    It has been a while for me since I last ran Mint, but back in the day it used to come with Brasero which can burn audio CDs. It would have supported mp3's, but he would of had to install the non-free codecs which was an option at install time or would have been installable from the settings. https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Brasero https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Brasero https://linuxmint-installation-guide.readthedocs.io/en/latest/codecs.html https://linuxmint-installation-guide.readthedocs.io/en/lates...
Dwedit 3y ago
Windows Update Blocker works as a nuclear option to disable all updates.
npteljes 3y ago
I'm solving this for myself with Windows 10 LTSC, which I keep activated with an activation emulator I host. For a professional, it was super easy to setup, virtually zero maintenance, and I get a pass on at least a good chunk of the bullshit that goes on in the MS-verse. Functionality doesn't seem to be lost, but I just use it to play my multiplayer games because of their Windows-only rootkit, I mean, anti-cheat.

dmitrygr 3y ago

Use registry editor to export And then delete wupdsvc and waasMedicSvc services. (HKLM/system/currentControlSet/Services) Reboot. Enjoy. Whenever you want updates, double click exported “reg” file and reboot. Allow updates to install. Delete services again.

p0w3n3d 3y ago

You are the beta tester. While you're using "your" windows, you're performing a task as an unofficial employee. If something is free for you, you are the product that is sold.

doodlesdev 3y ago
Windows is not free.

nikanj 3y ago

Just buy a pro/enterprise version, they support the GPOs to block updates

Joeri 3y ago

Windows pro managed through intune should give you that control, though it is a bit of an awkward path for a single user.

rwaksmunski 3y ago

Lookup Windows 10 LTSC

jonathantf2 3y ago

Not sure if this is because I run the Pro version but I've never ever ever once had Windows 10 or 11 reboot to install updates on it's own.

ailurooo 3y ago

The genuine answer is that you won't get this functionality unless you use windows enterprise. Which of course you can't purchase.. This functionality is locked to just the enterprise and will likely never change..

LoganDark 3y ago
> unless you use windows enterprise. Which of course you can't purchase.. I recently purchased a Windows 10 Enterprise key from a website called "RoyalCDKeys" for under $4. It worked to upgrade my Windows 11 installation. Basically any reseller will work but only if they use a payment processor other than PayPal. PayPal will only end in misery and your money being lost.
abwizz 3y ago
"service channels" are not a thing anymore?
londons_explore 3y ago
> can't purchase There are certain high seas where such things are plentiful.
- hospitalJail 3y ago
  This is equally as dangerous.
  - windowspiracy 3y ago
    Eh, not really. You can download a windows pro ISO straight from microsoft [0], install it, and then upgrade it to enterprise using the kms client key [1]. That can then be activated using an open source kms server emulator [2] that has a reasonable amount of code you can audit if you're extremely paranoid. If you don't want to go through the hassle of installing and then upgrading I'm also pretty sure you can upgrade one of the images in the wim offline using dism. 0: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 (will serve you an iso directly instead of the media creation tool if you give it a linux user agent) 1: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/get-started/kms-client-activation-keys https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/get-started... 2: https://github.com/Wind4/vlmcsd/tree/master https://github.com/Wind4/vlmcsd/tree/master

stalfosknight 3y ago

This should go without saying but this flagrant disregard for what users want is going to continue and get worse as long as people keep buying and using Windows. I wonder pretty often why people put themselves through this crap to use Windows.

pessimizer 3y ago
Because that's what comes on computers, and that's what the software they need runs on. The obvious reasons. If you want to fix that, work in antitrust, work on getting at least governments and public schools to choose FOSS solutions, work on improving FOSS solutions, work on Debian installers...
- stalfosknight 3y ago
  Windows didn't come preinstalled on my Mac.
runesofdoom 3y ago
A possibly illustrative example: A year or three ago, my uncle (mid-50s, telco IT manager, started on a Commodore in the 80s) decided he'd try Mint instead of upgrading from Windows 7. He got it installed and running, and decided he wanted to burn an audio CD. His install of Mint didn't come with any application to accomplish this. He got something recommended installed easily enough, but it only supported FLAC, not his MP3s. So he removed that and got some different CD burning software that did support his MP3s, but was set to Finnish by default. He got enough Finnish translated to get it changed to English, and then ran into some sort of driver/support issue for his particular CD burner. At that point, he did the free upgrade to Windows 10 and then burned his CD in less total time than he'd spent not burning a CD via Mint.
- vel0city 3y ago
  It has been a while for me since I last ran Mint, but back in the day it used to come with Brasero which can burn audio CDs. It would have supported mp3's, but he would of had to install the non-free codecs which was an option at install time or would have been installable from the settings. https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Brasero https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Brasero https://linuxmint-installation-guide.readthedocs.io/en/latest/codecs.html https://linuxmint-installation-guide.readthedocs.io/en/lates...

Dwedit 3y ago

Windows Update Blocker works as a nuclear option to disable all updates.

npteljes 3y ago

I'm solving this for myself with Windows 10 LTSC, which I keep activated with an activation emulator I host. For a professional, it was super easy to setup, virtually zero maintenance, and I get a pass on at least a good chunk of the bullshit that goes on in the MS-verse. Functionality doesn't seem to be lost, but I just use it to play my multiplayer games because of their Windows-only rootkit, I mean, anti-cheat.