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> But a notebook in the attic definitely will. A notebook in the attic is probably the least persistent medium you could choose. Fire? Gone. Water? Gone. 20 ye
by matricaria 3y ago
> But a notebook in the attic definitely will.
A notebook in the attic is probably the least persistent medium you could choose. Fire? Gone. Water? Gone. 20 years of heat. Probably unreadable.
- blowski 3y agoMine are still in the attic after 30 years and look absolutely fine.
- amadvance 3y agoWhen you die, that notebook will be thrown away. archive.org will still be there.
- throwuwu 3y agoI’m not sure archive.org will be there either. Institutions aren’t immortal
- blowski 3y agoAlso, if my kids are going to throw away my notebooks, who's going to be looking at my old blog posts?
- klyrs 3y agoIt's pristine LLM training data. The author is shilling for the forthcoming robot overlords. I personally think we'd all be better off playing outside and loving life, than cooped up staring at blogs on phones.
- schon 3y ago[dead]
- PUSH_AX 3y agoOP is right, it will survive bar some destructive process, and it's in your control. Hosted content is susceptible to destructive processes as well, Data loss? Gone. Org gives up and shuts down? Gone. Deindexed or lost in some future search LLM to rule them all? Gone. it's mostly out of your control.
- throwuwu 3y agoThis all just points out how hard it is to preserve anything over a long period of time. We think of the things in our lives as being permanent because they mostly last for a good portion of our lifetime but once property or information changes hands all of the tacit knowledge about it is lost. The next generation doesn’t see that notebook as important so it is just as likely to end up in the trash as in a box in storage. Even if they do try to preserve it there are many ways it can be destroyed or degrade or simply be lost. Even the seemingly simple thought experiment of “deliver a one sentence message to a person living at your current address 500 years from now” is nearly impossible using ordinary means available to an individual.
- kvathupo 3y agoThis discussion brings to mind the monastic practice of copying texts for the purpose of preservation [1]. An interesting practice I learned from the sci-fi classic "A Canticle for Leibowitz" [2]. [1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scriptorium https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scriptorium [2] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Canticle_for_Leibowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Canticle_for_Leibowitz
- matricaria 3y agoI have my whole website on my PC, if I lose access to my domain etc. I just upload it somewhere else. Always have backup.
- xigoi 3y agoUnlike physical data, electronic data can be very easily copied, so you can keep backups in multiple different places.
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- foobiekr 3y agoReality is a notebook in the attic, if found, will at least get a few minutes interest. Only the crazy narcissists think anyone is going to care about their curated babble once they're gone.
- 542354234235 3y agoIs it about having your personal writings accessible or is it making people’s writings accessible? An unsheltered person with a library card could write about themselves and that would be preserved on archive.org, copied by other/future archival websites, copied by individual data hoarding enthusiasts, etc. There is almost zero chance a notebook would survive any significant period of their life, let alone after their death. That record might become valuable insight to some future researcher that would otherwise have little information on the experiences of marginalized groups in that time and place.