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No web app means I won't even look at it.

stefan_ 3y ago
It's funny, you got 6 months to make the shittiest possible Twitter clone because at this point anything will go, but then you end up captured by Instagram product management that want you to irrevocably hook it up to their systems (why?) and weirdos that still think "app-first". Jesus, can nobody execute anymore? Also no EU apparently because making a product that doesn't record every interaction and pushes it down some "personalized ads" pipeline is unimaginable.
- planb 3y ago
  You make it sound like they (meta) are dumb for making these decisions. Probably, their goals shifted from "get as many users as possible" to "earn as much money as possible". I guess they know very well what they are doing.
  - imran0 3y ago
    I've got 1 word for you. Metaverse.
    - planb 3y ago
      Ok, good point...
waihtis 3y ago
you are so far in the niche in today's internet userbase it will not matter
- activiation 3y ago
  It doesnt to Facebook but it doesnt matter to me either... You would have to pay me to install a Facebook app.
  - drcongo 3y ago
    They did actually try that once. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/jan/30/facebook-paid-13-year-olds-for-access-to-all-their-internet-data https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/jan/30/facebook-...
- triyambakam 3y ago
  User base if the West, but not predominantly the world
  - peoplefromibiza 3y ago
    Not even that. Threads is not available in EU, which is the biggest chunk in terms of population of the so called West.
  - waihtis 3y ago
    If I had to make a guess I would have supposed non-West to be overwhelmingly mobile first also. Is this not true?
    - triyambakam 3y ago
      Yes that's what I was intending to say. So I agree with you, that the idea that a user who prefers mobile first being niche is highly specific to the West.
  - fennecfoxy 3y ago
    Lmao, the world outside the West is MORE mobile based than the West. Many citizens of many countries can't afford a laptop or desktop setup, go to a small village in Thailand or something and they'll all have cheap Chinese Android phones as their connection to the local outside worlds.
    - triyambakam 3y ago
      That's what I thought I said. I'm responding to this point: > you are so far in the niche in today's internet userbase it will not matter That the idea that a user who wants a web app (mobile first) is niche is only applicable to the West; that most of the rest of the world wants a web app.
- AdamN 3y ago
  Hmm, I do think it matters though. Alot of people read news/articles on the web and then they'll be abandoned when they try to click through if they're on a desktop. Meta needs to figure out a web solution but it's not critical just yet and it can be narrowly focused on just this situation.
Semaphor 3y ago
> No web app means I won't even look at it. It means I can’t even look at it as the app is not available in my region (Europe) :D But I guess I’ll be okay, if today is any indication, I’ll get the play-by-play on both Hacker News, and Lemmy …
berkle4455 3y ago
Twitter is going to end up with app-only soon. You can authenticate users with device attestation on an app and you can't on a website. That's how Twitter is going to avoid bots and scrapers.
baanlox 3y ago
Even if there was a web app, why would anyone get excited for a Twitter clone? This is just such a mind blowing lack of creativity. If I didn't know better I would think this is a type of parody or satire.

It's funny, you got 6 months to make the shittiest possible Twitter clone because at this point anything will go, but then you end up captured by Instagram product management that want you to irrevocably hook it up to their systems (why?) and weirdos that still think "app-first". Jesus, can nobody execute anymore? Also no EU apparently because making a product that doesn't record every interaction and pushes it down some "personalized ads" pipeline is unimaginable.

planb 3y ago
You make it sound like they (meta) are dumb for making these decisions. Probably, their goals shifted from "get as many users as possible" to "earn as much money as possible". I guess they know very well what they are doing.
- imran0 3y ago
  I've got 1 word for you. Metaverse.
  - planb 3y ago
    Ok, good point...

waihtis 3y ago

you are so far in the niche in today's internet userbase it will not matter

activiation 3y ago
It doesnt to Facebook but it doesnt matter to me either... You would have to pay me to install a Facebook app.
- drcongo 3y ago
  They did actually try that once. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/jan/30/facebook-paid-13-year-olds-for-access-to-all-their-internet-data https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/jan/30/facebook-...
triyambakam 3y ago
User base if the West, but not predominantly the world
- peoplefromibiza 3y ago
  Not even that. Threads is not available in EU, which is the biggest chunk in terms of population of the so called West.
- waihtis 3y ago
  If I had to make a guess I would have supposed non-West to be overwhelmingly mobile first also. Is this not true?
  - triyambakam 3y ago
    Yes that's what I was intending to say. So I agree with you, that the idea that a user who prefers mobile first being niche is highly specific to the West.
- fennecfoxy 3y ago
  Lmao, the world outside the West is MORE mobile based than the West. Many citizens of many countries can't afford a laptop or desktop setup, go to a small village in Thailand or something and they'll all have cheap Chinese Android phones as their connection to the local outside worlds.
  - triyambakam 3y ago
    That's what I thought I said. I'm responding to this point: > you are so far in the niche in today's internet userbase it will not matter That the idea that a user who wants a web app (mobile first) is niche is only applicable to the West; that most of the rest of the world wants a web app.
AdamN 3y ago
Hmm, I do think it matters though. Alot of people read news/articles on the web and then they'll be abandoned when they try to click through if they're on a desktop. Meta needs to figure out a web solution but it's not critical just yet and it can be narrowly focused on just this situation.

Semaphor 3y ago

> No web app means I won't even look at it. It means I can’t even look at it as the app is not available in my region (Europe) :D But I guess I’ll be okay, if today is any indication, I’ll get the play-by-play on both Hacker News, and Lemmy …

berkle4455 3y ago

Twitter is going to end up with app-only soon. You can authenticate users with device attestation on an app and you can't on a website. That's how Twitter is going to avoid bots and scrapers.

baanlox 3y ago

Even if there was a web app, why would anyone get excited for a Twitter clone? This is just such a mind blowing lack of creativity. If I didn't know better I would think this is a type of parody or satire.