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What does that mean? Doesn’t the blue tick verification on Twitter require a valid credit card ?

vehemenz 3y ago
Twitter had verification based on the account's noteworthiness, and now it doesn't. That was one of the main features of Twitter, and now Threads.net has it.
- Alupis 3y ago
  What does "noteworthy" mean? Who decides what's noteworthy?
  - RockRobotRock 3y ago
    You can look that up yourself.
  - jtriangle 3y ago
    It's always, eventually, exactly the people who you don't want deciding what is/isn't noteworthy.
  - vehemenz 3y ago
    Twitter did before, based on their own internal criteria. The system was flawed, but having a flawed system is better than no system at all, as we are seeing now.
  - EricE 3y ago
    Whoever wrote the bigger check. Damn that Elon to hell for standardizing the price for everyone.
viraptor 3y ago
Threads copies verification from Instagram which is mostly celebrities, public figures, brands, etc. You may not agree with the choices of noteworthiness, but they are at least checked for validity. https://help.instagram.com/854227311295302 https://help.instagram.com/854227311295302 Twitter has verification which is "anyone with spare change who wants to shout louder than others".
- dvt 3y ago
  You can pay for verification on Instagram as well. I had a blue checkmark last month when I kind of just paid for fun to see if it would increase engagement (I'm not an influencer or popular in the least, just have a few hundred followers). So I'd say Instagram/Threads' verification is equally worthless.
  - moneywoes 3y ago
    Did it work?
    - dvt 3y ago
      Not really, hah.
  - viraptor 3y ago
    Oh, I missed that they basically copied Twitter. Yeah, it's just as stupid then. https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-64697560 https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-64697560
ben0x539 3y ago
The way Twitter verification used to work and why was of any value to other users was that, if your twitter name was, idk, the name of an important politician or company, the blue checkmark meant that someone at twitter took some amount of care to check that you're actually that politician or company. Like, "verified" meant that twitter verfied their identity, tying the twitter account to some sort of external credentials. You used to know that you're talking to the actual company support team or whatever. Now it just means someone paid some amount of money. They're "verified" in the sense of like verifying the email address you used to sign up with to an olde timey web forum, and maybe that you're probably not an absolutely minimum effort spam/scam bot. However the "verified" checkmark is still basically useless because it doesn't verify an identity or credentials anymore, and it's easy enough for bad actors to get the checkmark to then impersonate some brand or website or whatever, and have their posts get privileged by The Algorithm. So, previously "verified" status was useful for people to be able to tell that the posts they're reading are really from who they think they're from. Now, "verified" status means that bad actors and bad posters get their posts boosted ahead of normal posts, so the replies to any mildly popular thread are going to be full of attempted scams and tepid takes. It's become completely useless for its original purpose and makes content discovery worse.

Twitter had verification based on the account's noteworthiness, and now it doesn't. That was one of the main features of Twitter, and now Threads.net has it.

Alupis 3y ago
What does "noteworthy" mean? Who decides what's noteworthy?
- RockRobotRock 3y ago
  You can look that up yourself.
- jtriangle 3y ago
  It's always, eventually, exactly the people who you don't want deciding what is/isn't noteworthy.
- vehemenz 3y ago
  Twitter did before, based on their own internal criteria. The system was flawed, but having a flawed system is better than no system at all, as we are seeing now.
- EricE 3y ago
  Whoever wrote the bigger check. Damn that Elon to hell for standardizing the price for everyone.

viraptor 3y ago

Threads copies verification from Instagram which is mostly celebrities, public figures, brands, etc. You may not agree with the choices of noteworthiness, but they are at least checked for validity. https://help.instagram.com/854227311295302 https://help.instagram.com/854227311295302 Twitter has verification which is "anyone with spare change who wants to shout louder than others".

dvt 3y ago
You can pay for verification on Instagram as well. I had a blue checkmark last month when I kind of just paid for fun to see if it would increase engagement (I'm not an influencer or popular in the least, just have a few hundred followers). So I'd say Instagram/Threads' verification is equally worthless.
- moneywoes 3y ago
  Did it work?
  - dvt 3y ago
    Not really, hah.
- viraptor 3y ago
  Oh, I missed that they basically copied Twitter. Yeah, it's just as stupid then. https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-64697560 https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-64697560

ben0x539 3y ago

The way Twitter verification used to work and why was of any value to other users was that, if your twitter name was, idk, the name of an important politician or company, the blue checkmark meant that someone at twitter took some amount of care to check that you're actually that politician or company. Like, "verified" meant that twitter verfied their identity, tying the twitter account to some sort of external credentials. You used to know that you're talking to the actual company support team or whatever. Now it just means someone paid some amount of money. They're "verified" in the sense of like verifying the email address you used to sign up with to an olde timey web forum, and maybe that you're probably not an absolutely minimum effort spam/scam bot. However the "verified" checkmark is still basically useless because it doesn't verify an identity or credentials anymore, and it's easy enough for bad actors to get the checkmark to then impersonate some brand or website or whatever, and have their posts get privileged by The Algorithm. So, previously "verified" status was useful for people to be able to tell that the posts they're reading are really from who they think they're from. Now, "verified" status means that bad actors and bad posters get their posts boosted ahead of normal posts, so the replies to any mildly popular thread are going to be full of attempted scams and tepid takes. It's become completely useless for its original purpose and makes content discovery worse.