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>>Threads is available on iOS and Android I hate that computer has become a second tier citizen. My phone is a great little computing device, but my computer i

>>Threads is available on iOS and Android I hate that computer has become a second tier citizen. My phone is a great little computing device, but my computer is an even better, large, comfortable, multitasking, ergonomic computing device.

fullshark 3y ago
Especially for writing text
api 3y ago
Your phone offers the best opportunity to collect surveillance data, especially since you take it everywhere and provide a constant feed of your location. That’s why even things with web or desktop UIs will try to goad you into installing the mobile app. Look at the list of collected data for Threads in the iOS App Store. It’s basically “everything conceivable as much as possible.”
- wilg 3y ago
  It doesn't ask for your location
- astrange 3y ago
  Phones are good at hiding your personal info from apps and your personal info is basically not valuable anyway. This is a conspiracy theory because the idea your data is worth something makes people feel good about themselves.
  - api 3y ago
    Isn’t targeted advertising how social media makes money? Your data isn’t valuable because your life is special and interesting. It’s valuable because it helps micro-target ads at you.
    - astrange 3y ago
      When Facebook ads are good, it's because people are paying to show the ad specifically to you. (Like when you put something in your cart on a web store, don't check out, and then ads follow you around everywhere telling you to go finish buying the thing.) That's not really demographics-based though, it's explicitly tracking you as a person. Otherwise I'm not impressed. I don't try and hide myself from Facebook/Twitter much, but the first keeps trying to sell me Viagra and shirts for fat guys and the second thinks I'm every kind of doctor at the same time.
- kaba0 3y ago
  If anything, phone OSs at least have a semblance of security and privacy. Something desktop OSs sorely lack.
  - api 3y ago
    True, which is why web browser sandbox is the only way I use any big social media.
emodendroket 3y ago
I've shrugged off a lot of mobile computing limitations because, well, if I wanted to do that I'd just use a computer. But it occurs to me that for a lot of people they don't actually have a regular computer now.
joker_minmax 3y ago
Especially for a text based app, doubly irritating for them to effectively ban good keyboards.
koyote 3y ago
I hate this new trend with a passion. A new low-cost airline just launched in Australia. The only way to book? By installing their app... I am not sure how the non-tech masses book their trips, but I usually have a dozen tabs open, comparing prices and flight times across a range of aggregators/airlines. Even if I know which airlines I am flying I often have several tabs open to compare prices across dates. All of this is not possible with an app.
- Dalewyn 3y ago
  >I am not sure how the non-tech masses book their trips, By either calling (you have a phone in your hand, after all) the airline or their favorite travel agency, or using the application. I know a guy who flies around frequently for both business and pleasure. The most he does is check Experia; usually he just books flights via the airline's application (made even easier because he's a frequent flyer). >I hate this new trend with a passion. 20/20 hindsight says it was inevitable. Microsoft was too early and too innovative to the party with Windows 8, but otherwise they were right in judging that the desktop was on its way out from the front seat. For the vast majority of people, a phone has more computer than they would know what to do with.
- NikolaNovak 3y ago
  >> I am not sure how the non-tech masses book their trips My non techie friends and family do everything on their phone. From my teenage nieces and nephews, to my 75 year old parents and in laws, they are far far far more comfortable on phone, which they feel they understand, than on a computer, which they feel is scary and mysterious and dangerous. (I'm not saying I agree with that ; that's just a perception we have groomed in them). They do their banking and purchases and mortgages and trips on a teeny little screen, even teenier keyboard. And here's the thing, they're good at it. It works! Vast majority of time they accomplish what they want effectively and efficiently. Turns out I'm a massive exception. I just feel claustrophobic and enclosed and uncertain without my computer which is my comfort zone. I have a friend in royal Bank of Canada and they have terminology for that - I forget the details but it's something like shoulders down vs shoulders up. They have detailed stats on what are peoples preferences in doing stuff on phone vs computer. Apparently in Canada people do vast majority on phone except in usa. Apparently that makes Canadians odd - they say Americans and a lot of world does their mortgages on phone too. I found that shocking until I realized my wife and sister do too
forgot-my-pw 3y ago
Meta does this a lot. Instagram didn't have a web version for years. Even today it's missing a lot of features compared to the app.

fullshark 3y ago

Especially for writing text

api 3y ago

Your phone offers the best opportunity to collect surveillance data, especially since you take it everywhere and provide a constant feed of your location. That’s why even things with web or desktop UIs will try to goad you into installing the mobile app. Look at the list of collected data for Threads in the iOS App Store. It’s basically “everything conceivable as much as possible.”

wilg 3y ago
It doesn't ask for your location
astrange 3y ago
Phones are good at hiding your personal info from apps and your personal info is basically not valuable anyway. This is a conspiracy theory because the idea your data is worth something makes people feel good about themselves.
- api 3y ago
  Isn’t targeted advertising how social media makes money? Your data isn’t valuable because your life is special and interesting. It’s valuable because it helps micro-target ads at you.
  - astrange 3y ago
    When Facebook ads are good, it's because people are paying to show the ad specifically to you. (Like when you put something in your cart on a web store, don't check out, and then ads follow you around everywhere telling you to go finish buying the thing.) That's not really demographics-based though, it's explicitly tracking you as a person. Otherwise I'm not impressed. I don't try and hide myself from Facebook/Twitter much, but the first keeps trying to sell me Viagra and shirts for fat guys and the second thinks I'm every kind of doctor at the same time.
kaba0 3y ago
If anything, phone OSs at least have a semblance of security and privacy. Something desktop OSs sorely lack.
- api 3y ago
  True, which is why web browser sandbox is the only way I use any big social media.

emodendroket 3y ago

I've shrugged off a lot of mobile computing limitations because, well, if I wanted to do that I'd just use a computer. But it occurs to me that for a lot of people they don't actually have a regular computer now.

joker_minmax 3y ago

Especially for a text based app, doubly irritating for them to effectively ban good keyboards.

koyote 3y ago

I hate this new trend with a passion. A new low-cost airline just launched in Australia. The only way to book? By installing their app... I am not sure how the non-tech masses book their trips, but I usually have a dozen tabs open, comparing prices and flight times across a range of aggregators/airlines. Even if I know which airlines I am flying I often have several tabs open to compare prices across dates. All of this is not possible with an app.

Dalewyn 3y ago
>I am not sure how the non-tech masses book their trips, By either calling (you have a phone in your hand, after all) the airline or their favorite travel agency, or using the application. I know a guy who flies around frequently for both business and pleasure. The most he does is check Experia; usually he just books flights via the airline's application (made even easier because he's a frequent flyer). >I hate this new trend with a passion. 20/20 hindsight says it was inevitable. Microsoft was too early and too innovative to the party with Windows 8, but otherwise they were right in judging that the desktop was on its way out from the front seat. For the vast majority of people, a phone has more computer than they would know what to do with.
NikolaNovak 3y ago
>> I am not sure how the non-tech masses book their trips My non techie friends and family do everything on their phone. From my teenage nieces and nephews, to my 75 year old parents and in laws, they are far far far more comfortable on phone, which they feel they understand, than on a computer, which they feel is scary and mysterious and dangerous. (I'm not saying I agree with that ; that's just a perception we have groomed in them). They do their banking and purchases and mortgages and trips on a teeny little screen, even teenier keyboard. And here's the thing, they're good at it. It works! Vast majority of time they accomplish what they want effectively and efficiently. Turns out I'm a massive exception. I just feel claustrophobic and enclosed and uncertain without my computer which is my comfort zone. I have a friend in royal Bank of Canada and they have terminology for that - I forget the details but it's something like shoulders down vs shoulders up. They have detailed stats on what are peoples preferences in doing stuff on phone vs computer. Apparently in Canada people do vast majority on phone except in usa. Apparently that makes Canadians odd - they say Americans and a lot of world does their mortgages on phone too. I found that shocking until I realized my wife and sister do too

forgot-my-pw 3y ago

Meta does this a lot. Instagram didn't have a web version for years. Even today it's missing a lot of features compared to the app.