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My only concern is for people like me who already have really poor eyesight (mine is -9 on one and -11 on the other). I am envious of people who can wear sungla

My only concern is for people like me who already have really poor eyesight (mine is -9 on one and -11 on the other). I am envious of people who can wear sunglasses, and the only option I have is to get contacts and that doesn’t seem very pleasant. Also why I never fully came around to VR/AR because it felt like I’m wearing double goggles, but I acknowledge that there are others who wear glasses and don’t share the same concerns.

coldtea 3y ago
What does the poor eyesight have to do with not being able to wear sunglasses? There are prescription sunglasses for shortsightness, astigmatism, etc. So the sunglasses-form VR would just have to cater for that. Apple's headset-form VR already does (offers the option to have prescription lenses in it).
- fragmede 3y ago
  Or just find a pair that fits over the prescription pair and wear them both.
  - coldtea 3y ago
    Not easy to wear two pairs at the same time, and not convenient either.
    - alexvoda 3y ago
      They probably meant clip-on sunglasses that clip to your usual glases.
      - fragmede 3y ago
        no, I do mean just wearing two pairs of glasses, one on top of each other.
- rtkwe 3y ago
  With extreme corrections it get harder to put that into anything other than flat lenses and a lot of sun glasses aren't that shape. I recently went through getting perscription safety glasses and had to get special inserts to flatten out the lens profile to make my relatively minor -3.75 to -4 prescription. I was able to get some relatively normal Oakleys in my script for sunglasses though.
  - mindslight 3y ago
    Also you generally want sunglasses to be much wider and taller than prescription glasses, because otherwise you get too much light bleed around the sides. Making large lenses is when the thickness takes off, especially for nearsightedness where the thickness ends up at the edges of the lens.
bryanrasmussen 3y ago
I would expect the second / third generation of sunglasses form would be showing you a high quality video display instead of seeing "through" it - so I suppose correcting for vision problems would be zooming or other effects on the video. This of course is my expectation based on no knowledge in the field and probably sounds silly to those with that knowledge.
gostsamo 3y ago
Don't worry. I'm blind and I'm totally fucked in a 3d first ux. :)
ajmurmann 3y ago
I used to absolutely dead contact lenses and not understand how anyone could choose to wear them. Then I got diagnosed with keratoconus and had to wear rigid contact lenses. It turns out it's not that bad, especially with hybrid or sclerals. I imagine entirely soft ones are even more pleasant if that's an option for you. It's gonna be weird the first few hours or and it will take a few days to get comfortable handling them, but it's really convenient. You don't have to clean them throughout the day like glasses, you can wear sunglasses over them etc. I recommend you try them for a few days and see how you actually like it. It's not a scary as it sounds.
capr 3y ago
I've put lenses on all my sunglasses. Works great, except when I go into a store and I have to lift my sunglasses and suddenly it's all blurry.
jfoutz 3y ago
I have a matched set of -9, so I don't really have to track left/right with contacts. Which is kind of nice. Day to day, I wear glasses, and have no plans to change that. If I'm going to a show or a movie, or if I'm planning on spending a lot of time outside, I wear the contacts. The contacts are set up for distance not reading. and that's becoming more important as I get older. It can be disorienting for a few minutes, I forget how much glasses distort peripheral vision. I get a small supply of daily disposables. I keep a pair in my laptop bag. With vision as poor as ours, you know how difficult it is if your glasses are lost or damaged. It's not life changing, but it is a genuine quality of life improvement for me. I encourage you to get a contact exam, to verify you can wear contacts. They should teach you how to put them in and take them out. It can be stressful, but you never touch your eye. The doctor or assistant can answer any questions you have. They're not particularly expensive (in the US anyway). You don't have to wear them. Try them out, they might have some benefits you haven't realized. That said, I don't think i'd wear contacts just for AR/VR. The headsets already seem like a hassle, and extra tooling to make my eyes use them effectively, even more of a hassle.
mattkevan 3y ago
A lot of online glasses places do two-for-one deals so I just get two of the same frames, one with normal lenses and one with tinted. That way I know the lenses will fit the frame.
jonhohle 3y ago
Is it the idea of contacts that you don’t like? My wife is in the -15 to -16 range with astigmatism and has worn contacts for 25 years. She doesn’t have any abnormal trouble with VR when wearing them. At -11 you can still get glasses lenses at all the budget places, 1.74 refractive index even!
david2ndaccount 3y ago
There are sunglasses (normally worn by older people) that are meant to be worn over your normal glasses.

coldtea 3y ago

What does the poor eyesight have to do with not being able to wear sunglasses? There are prescription sunglasses for shortsightness, astigmatism, etc. So the sunglasses-form VR would just have to cater for that. Apple's headset-form VR already does (offers the option to have prescription lenses in it).

fragmede 3y ago
Or just find a pair that fits over the prescription pair and wear them both.
- coldtea 3y ago
  Not easy to wear two pairs at the same time, and not convenient either.
  - alexvoda 3y ago
    They probably meant clip-on sunglasses that clip to your usual glases.
    - fragmede 3y ago
      no, I do mean just wearing two pairs of glasses, one on top of each other.
rtkwe 3y ago
With extreme corrections it get harder to put that into anything other than flat lenses and a lot of sun glasses aren't that shape. I recently went through getting perscription safety glasses and had to get special inserts to flatten out the lens profile to make my relatively minor -3.75 to -4 prescription. I was able to get some relatively normal Oakleys in my script for sunglasses though.
- mindslight 3y ago
  Also you generally want sunglasses to be much wider and taller than prescription glasses, because otherwise you get too much light bleed around the sides. Making large lenses is when the thickness takes off, especially for nearsightedness where the thickness ends up at the edges of the lens.

bryanrasmussen 3y ago

I would expect the second / third generation of sunglasses form would be showing you a high quality video display instead of seeing "through" it - so I suppose correcting for vision problems would be zooming or other effects on the video. This of course is my expectation based on no knowledge in the field and probably sounds silly to those with that knowledge.

gostsamo 3y ago

Don't worry. I'm blind and I'm totally fucked in a 3d first ux. :)

ajmurmann 3y ago

I used to absolutely dead contact lenses and not understand how anyone could choose to wear them. Then I got diagnosed with keratoconus and had to wear rigid contact lenses. It turns out it's not that bad, especially with hybrid or sclerals. I imagine entirely soft ones are even more pleasant if that's an option for you. It's gonna be weird the first few hours or and it will take a few days to get comfortable handling them, but it's really convenient. You don't have to clean them throughout the day like glasses, you can wear sunglasses over them etc. I recommend you try them for a few days and see how you actually like it. It's not a scary as it sounds.

capr 3y ago

I've put lenses on all my sunglasses. Works great, except when I go into a store and I have to lift my sunglasses and suddenly it's all blurry.

jfoutz 3y ago

I have a matched set of -9, so I don't really have to track left/right with contacts. Which is kind of nice. Day to day, I wear glasses, and have no plans to change that. If I'm going to a show or a movie, or if I'm planning on spending a lot of time outside, I wear the contacts. The contacts are set up for distance not reading. and that's becoming more important as I get older. It can be disorienting for a few minutes, I forget how much glasses distort peripheral vision. I get a small supply of daily disposables. I keep a pair in my laptop bag. With vision as poor as ours, you know how difficult it is if your glasses are lost or damaged. It's not life changing, but it is a genuine quality of life improvement for me. I encourage you to get a contact exam, to verify you can wear contacts. They should teach you how to put them in and take them out. It can be stressful, but you never touch your eye. The doctor or assistant can answer any questions you have. They're not particularly expensive (in the US anyway). You don't have to wear them. Try them out, they might have some benefits you haven't realized. That said, I don't think i'd wear contacts just for AR/VR. The headsets already seem like a hassle, and extra tooling to make my eyes use them effectively, even more of a hassle.

mattkevan 3y ago

A lot of online glasses places do two-for-one deals so I just get two of the same frames, one with normal lenses and one with tinted. That way I know the lenses will fit the frame.

jonhohle 3y ago

Is it the idea of contacts that you don’t like? My wife is in the -15 to -16 range with astigmatism and has worn contacts for 25 years. She doesn’t have any abnormal trouble with VR when wearing them. At -11 you can still get glasses lenses at all the budget places, 1.74 refractive index even!

david2ndaccount 3y ago

There are sunglasses (normally worn by older people) that are meant to be worn over your normal glasses.