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As strange as it is, I think there's validity to it. Master's degrees filter more on having the money to cover tuition than test scores, and it's easier to just

As strange as it is, I think there's validity to it. Master's degrees filter more on having the money to cover tuition than test scores, and it's easier to just buy your way into a good school than with undergraduate. I remember taking courses alongside Master's students who were anecdotally less impressive than my fellow undergraduates. This experience (along with my dwindling pocketbook) helped dissuade me from staying the extra year or so, rather than immediately starting work.

dsgsdgsdsda 3y ago
Strongly disagree. You can get a full masters from UT Austin with specialization in AI/ML for about $10k. Fully remote. https://cdso.utexas.edu/msai https://cdso.utexas.edu/msai . Compared to a typical bachelors which is what, about $50k?
- Hydraulix989 3y ago
  Bachelors degrees from selective private schools now cost $50k/year. Rather than spending an extra year getting a state school masters, you can also gain a year of ML work experience for a net positive six figures first year out of school. Which is more valuable?
  - twelve40 3y ago
    I think it's 100% individual. I didn't feel like I learned enough, so I stayed in grad school. If you feel otherwise, you absolutely should follow you own path. I've interviewed and worked with hundreds, ranging from bootcamp to PhD, ivy league to city college, and i've seen so many - both - failures and successes, that reducing signals even to education in general, let alone some specific combo of it, without hearing out the person first, is a straight up bias.
ido 3y ago
In well-funded fields with lots of jobs (like CS) graduate students often don't have to pay tuition (or heavily subsidized tuition). Everyone I know that got a Masters/PhD in CS actually got paid for it (it was like a job at the university, albeit not as well paid as working in tech). Very different in the humanities.
wink 3y ago
Sounds pretty weird to me. I'm just too old to have gotten the BSc+MSc combo here in Germany (some unis had it, mine didn't) but from my experience most people here would just stay at the same university and tack on the MSc just after the BSc (this is in CS). Oh, but for comparison my degree was officially 9 semesters (most people used 10-12), so getting "just the BSc" was a) much shorter and b) not as ingrained as the default and then going the extra mile, the combo package was more like the full replacement for the old Diploma.
twelve40 3y ago
> Master's degrees filter more on having the money I was a TA and RA, didn't have to pay a dime for grad school, in fact got paid a livable salary, that was UC. No scholarships or anything special at all, just regular TA and RA work. Not sure how "typical" that is, but that money filter certainly did not exist when i was there.

dsgsdgsdsda 3y ago

Strongly disagree. You can get a full masters from UT Austin with specialization in AI/ML for about $10k. Fully remote. https://cdso.utexas.edu/msai https://cdso.utexas.edu/msai . Compared to a typical bachelors which is what, about $50k?

Hydraulix989 3y ago
Bachelors degrees from selective private schools now cost $50k/year. Rather than spending an extra year getting a state school masters, you can also gain a year of ML work experience for a net positive six figures first year out of school. Which is more valuable?
- twelve40 3y ago
  I think it's 100% individual. I didn't feel like I learned enough, so I stayed in grad school. If you feel otherwise, you absolutely should follow you own path. I've interviewed and worked with hundreds, ranging from bootcamp to PhD, ivy league to city college, and i've seen so many - both - failures and successes, that reducing signals even to education in general, let alone some specific combo of it, without hearing out the person first, is a straight up bias.

ido 3y ago

In well-funded fields with lots of jobs (like CS) graduate students often don't have to pay tuition (or heavily subsidized tuition). Everyone I know that got a Masters/PhD in CS actually got paid for it (it was like a job at the university, albeit not as well paid as working in tech). Very different in the humanities.

wink 3y ago

Sounds pretty weird to me. I'm just too old to have gotten the BSc+MSc combo here in Germany (some unis had it, mine didn't) but from my experience most people here would just stay at the same university and tack on the MSc just after the BSc (this is in CS). Oh, but for comparison my degree was officially 9 semesters (most people used 10-12), so getting "just the BSc" was a) much shorter and b) not as ingrained as the default and then going the extra mile, the combo package was more like the full replacement for the old Diploma.

twelve40 3y ago

> Master's degrees filter more on having the money I was a TA and RA, didn't have to pay a dime for grad school, in fact got paid a livable salary, that was UC. No scholarships or anything special at all, just regular TA and RA work. Not sure how "typical" that is, but that money filter certainly did not exist when i was there.