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Occurs to me as a retired 69 year old former coder that AI makes us old geezers and geezesses somewhat competitive again with our younger colleagues. Need to le

Occurs to me as a retired 69 year old former coder that AI makes us old geezers and geezesses somewhat competitive again with our younger colleagues. Need to learn yet another new framework? Let AI do the nitty gritty bit. Capitalize on your experience and higher level know how.

riwsky 3y ago
I’m reminded of those pro StarCraft players who retire at like 30 because, while their strategy is perfect, their fingers simply can’t click or hotkey as fast as the twenty somethings.
- jamaicahest 3y ago
  I imagine it is the same for any elite level sport. Except perhaps chess.
  - sireat 3y ago
    Actually top level OTB chess ability degrades notably past 50 with a few notable exceptions (Korchnoi, Smyslov). Sure the decline starts a bit later than regular sports but still it is significant. That is why when Rausis(https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessplayer?pid=14248 https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessplayer?pid=14248) rating was approaching 2700 in his 50s everyone was very suspicious. It is partially due to the incredible levels of stamina required to stay on top of the game for 4-6 hours. Also as Kramnik said when he was retiring, you start making strange(read wrong) decisions suddenly.
coliveira 3y ago
Yes, this is my thinking too. No need to learn tons of new frameworks, just ask ChatGPT what framework we can use to do a particular task and ask for sample code. You can learn from that much more easily.
- mattkevan 3y ago
  I built an ebook reader in Vue with ChatGPT the other day, never having used Vue before. Took about a day. Learned absolutely loads - far more than sitting down with a book and trying to learn from that. Not least because I’ve tried before and quickly lost interest. Instead I’ve learned the basics and made a working web app, which I’m pretty pleased with.
robbomacrae 3y ago
This is absolutely the case. You can now code in any language using ChatGPT 4. Just say what you want from it like you were interviewing a developer. Look for potential bugs in the output and ask it about them. Look for memory leaks and ask. Then when you can't see anything else wrong with it ask it whether there are any bugs or edge cases that might cause problems. Anyone with a bit of experience to know the right questions to ask can now code in any language or platform.
WA 3y ago
It doesn't work. I asked GPT-4 to migrate the following PHP code to JS: $csv = array_map('str_getcsv', file($argv[1])); And this is the result: const csv = readFileSync(filename, 'utf-8').split('\n').map(line => line.split(',')); You can't parse CSV this way, because you need to respect delimiters. Counter example: 1,"1,5",2 "1,5" being the German notation for "1.5". Hence, a simple split(',') will break this thing. PHP's str_getcsv is, of course, a proper CSV parser and not a string splitter. Unless your code uses basically zero stdlib API calls, you will have to double check everything. Please note that this kind of bug isn't even easy to catch if you test CSV file doesn't contain a quoted entry.
- quickthrower2 3y ago
  One shot code translation is very… September 2023
  - WA 3y ago
    Hmm but what's the solution? Type out the reasoning for every line of code for an entire codebase?
- mejutoco 3y ago
  I wonder if inputting an explicit function call $csv = str_getcsv(file($argv[1])) Would make it easier.
  - jiggawatts 3y ago
    Yes: https://chat.openai.com/share/33466769-1e06-49af-8abd-7a4c0e691254 https://chat.openai.com/share/33466769-1e06-49af-8abd-7a4c0e...
- BoorishBears 3y ago
  You couldn't get it to work, but it certainly does work: https://chat.openai.com/share/774fbe29-00b9-4e1f-815c-268707283153 https://chat.openai.com/share/774fbe29-00b9-4e1f-815c-268707...

riwsky 3y ago

I’m reminded of those pro StarCraft players who retire at like 30 because, while their strategy is perfect, their fingers simply can’t click or hotkey as fast as the twenty somethings.

jamaicahest 3y ago
I imagine it is the same for any elite level sport. Except perhaps chess.
- sireat 3y ago
  Actually top level OTB chess ability degrades notably past 50 with a few notable exceptions (Korchnoi, Smyslov). Sure the decline starts a bit later than regular sports but still it is significant. That is why when Rausis(https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessplayer?pid=14248 https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessplayer?pid=14248) rating was approaching 2700 in his 50s everyone was very suspicious. It is partially due to the incredible levels of stamina required to stay on top of the game for 4-6 hours. Also as Kramnik said when he was retiring, you start making strange(read wrong) decisions suddenly.

coliveira 3y ago

Yes, this is my thinking too. No need to learn tons of new frameworks, just ask ChatGPT what framework we can use to do a particular task and ask for sample code. You can learn from that much more easily.

mattkevan 3y ago
I built an ebook reader in Vue with ChatGPT the other day, never having used Vue before. Took about a day. Learned absolutely loads - far more than sitting down with a book and trying to learn from that. Not least because I’ve tried before and quickly lost interest. Instead I’ve learned the basics and made a working web app, which I’m pretty pleased with.

robbomacrae 3y ago

This is absolutely the case. You can now code in any language using ChatGPT 4. Just say what you want from it like you were interviewing a developer. Look for potential bugs in the output and ask it about them. Look for memory leaks and ask. Then when you can't see anything else wrong with it ask it whether there are any bugs or edge cases that might cause problems. Anyone with a bit of experience to know the right questions to ask can now code in any language or platform.

WA 3y ago

It doesn't work. I asked GPT-4 to migrate the following PHP code to JS: $csv = array_map('str_getcsv', file($argv[1])); And this is the result: const csv = readFileSync(filename, 'utf-8').split('\n').map(line => line.split(',')); You can't parse CSV this way, because you need to respect delimiters. Counter example: 1,"1,5",2 "1,5" being the German notation for "1.5". Hence, a simple split(',') will break this thing. PHP's str_getcsv is, of course, a proper CSV parser and not a string splitter. Unless your code uses basically zero stdlib API calls, you will have to double check everything. Please note that this kind of bug isn't even easy to catch if you test CSV file doesn't contain a quoted entry.

quickthrower2 3y ago
One shot code translation is very… September 2023
- WA 3y ago
  Hmm but what's the solution? Type out the reasoning for every line of code for an entire codebase?
mejutoco 3y ago
I wonder if inputting an explicit function call $csv = str_getcsv(file($argv[1])) Would make it easier.
- jiggawatts 3y ago
  Yes: https://chat.openai.com/share/33466769-1e06-49af-8abd-7a4c0e691254 https://chat.openai.com/share/33466769-1e06-49af-8abd-7a4c0e...
BoorishBears 3y ago
You couldn't get it to work, but it certainly does work: https://chat.openai.com/share/774fbe29-00b9-4e1f-815c-268707283153 https://chat.openai.com/share/774fbe29-00b9-4e1f-815c-268707...