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Yeah Linux will never last against Novell.

by ikiris 3y ago

salawat 3y ago
Speaking of which... I've been looking for an open source equivalent of the old NetWare Client. Anybody know of one? Specifically interested in the "runs scripts at login" aspect.
that_guy_iain 3y ago
So you have one. One out of how many hundreds of thousands? "But Linux" when the talk that open-source doesn't appear to be a substainable model is like using Zuckerberg as an example as dropping out of college. Lots of people drop out of college and never achieve anything. There are always going to be rare examples that can achieve something. And the fact the open source community only appears to have one example of how you can build a profitable large business off the back of open source - Red Hat. (Who is currently closing things down to remove competitor.) Really kind hits home that it's a very bare existance for open source projects.
- ikiris 3y ago
  I didn’t say anything about profit. But you’re right, no one uses Apache, nginx, postfix, bind, dhcpd, ntpd, spamassassian, kubernetes, go, python, c, busybox, irc, email, sip, php, react, … and they’ll never last.
  - that_guy_iain 3y ago
    > I didn’t say anything about profit. The entire premise of my comment was about being substainable. That requires making a profit. > But you’re right, no one uses Apache, nginx, postfix, bind, dhcpd, ntpd, spamassassian, kubernetes, go, python, c, busybox, irc, email, sip, php, react, … and they’ll never last. Again missing the point. And wasn't DHCPD the one that had a serious issue because one guy was maintaining it and he had terminal cancer so part of the things he had to do when he was dying was find someone to make sure a critical part of the world's tech infrastucure was maintained? That's not substainable. I also like how you listed protocols.
    - ikiris 3y ago
      Please show how linus has made a profit over the 40 plus years. Same with apache. Or alternately, grow up and realize that profit is not required for open source to persist. Your business model is no one's problem but your own. The world will continue on even if you need a real job.
      - that_guy_iain 3y ago
        Haha as I said. One example. I never said that open-source couldn‘t exist I said it’s not substainable for a business. I get it you like open source. But as shown open source businesses are generally not substanable. Sure you have a tiny percentage that can make a living from open source. And of that tiny percentage they are employed by businesses that operate as closed source. I think really, you‘re the on who needs to grow up. It’s quite pathetic to act like this.

Yeah Linux will never last against Novell.

by ikiris 3y ago

Yeah Linux will never last against Novell.

Speaking of which... I've been looking for an open source equivalent of the old NetWare Client. Anybody know of one? Specifically interested in the "runs scripts at login" aspect.

that_guy_iain 3y ago

So you have one. One out of how many hundreds of thousands? "But Linux" when the talk that open-source doesn't appear to be a substainable model is like using Zuckerberg as an example as dropping out of college. Lots of people drop out of college and never achieve anything. There are always going to be rare examples that can achieve something. And the fact the open source community only appears to have one example of how you can build a profitable large business off the back of open source - Red Hat. (Who is currently closing things down to remove competitor.) Really kind hits home that it's a very bare existance for open source projects.

ikiris 3y ago
I didn’t say anything about profit. But you’re right, no one uses Apache, nginx, postfix, bind, dhcpd, ntpd, spamassassian, kubernetes, go, python, c, busybox, irc, email, sip, php, react, … and they’ll never last.
- that_guy_iain 3y ago
  > I didn’t say anything about profit. The entire premise of my comment was about being substainable. That requires making a profit. > But you’re right, no one uses Apache, nginx, postfix, bind, dhcpd, ntpd, spamassassian, kubernetes, go, python, c, busybox, irc, email, sip, php, react, … and they’ll never last. Again missing the point. And wasn't DHCPD the one that had a serious issue because one guy was maintaining it and he had terminal cancer so part of the things he had to do when he was dying was find someone to make sure a critical part of the world's tech infrastucure was maintained? That's not substainable. I also like how you listed protocols.
  - ikiris 3y ago
    Please show how linus has made a profit over the 40 plus years. Same with apache. Or alternately, grow up and realize that profit is not required for open source to persist. Your business model is no one's problem but your own. The world will continue on even if you need a real job.
    - that_guy_iain 3y ago
      Haha as I said. One example. I never said that open-source couldn‘t exist I said it’s not substainable for a business. I get it you like open source. But as shown open source businesses are generally not substanable. Sure you have a tiny percentage that can make a living from open source. And of that tiny percentage they are employed by businesses that operate as closed source. I think really, you‘re the on who needs to grow up. It’s quite pathetic to act like this.