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As someone who wants all of the other things he's supposed to be building, I can't imagine how you would not see Twitter as an objective step back. Every singl

As someone who wants all of the other things he's supposed to be building, I can't imagine how you would not see Twitter as an objective step back. Every single change he has made to Twitter is exclusively to claw back income from users because he made all of the advertisers leave. Anyone competent would have just added the features they wanted without burning 80% of the company's income and staff.

Cyph0n 3y ago
The cherry (or turd?) on top is that the platform is manned by a skeleton crew. I kid you not: I recently saw a screenshot of a post by an engineer asking ex-Twitter engineers for help debugging an issue.. on Blind. Mind you, I don’t blame the engineer at all: it just gives you an idea of the mess Musk has made for himself. I think the fact that the platform is still running is a testament to those who built & documented the infra. It’s also a feather on the cap for those who remain to man the ship, particularly if there was no other choice. One catastrophic outage is all it really takes at this point.
- darth_avocado 3y ago
  I can confirm this is true. Both that Twitter is running on a skeleton crew and that engineers are asking ex-engineers for help.
abledon 3y ago
Elon has said he's ok losing money on Twitter. Its about providing a free speech platform where people with opposing views are allowed to express them.
- nharada 3y ago
  Please, his actions make it clear that it’s his views he cares about and anyone opposing them is not welcome.
  - abledon 3y ago
    > his actions make it clear I haven't seen any actions where he has prevented people from discussions on the platform within the laws of the United States.
    - luuurker 3y ago
      They literally banned journalists reporting on his plane, easily gave in to the Turkish government, tried to ban links to other platforms, etc. It's okay to support someone, but at least do it without filtering out everything that doesn't fit your narrative.
      - abledon 3y ago
        For the Turkish Gov thing, I should've specified US citizens on US Soil. The argument he claims is that a country can decide how they want to operate businesses inside their own borders. Twitter must comply. Its better to be allowed to operate in another country than be kicked out and have another more government subservient tech company replacement step in. If you believe otherwise, I think I would need to hear a strong argument that its the better alternative. If someone is one of the most highly influential people on the planet managing gigantic marketcap companies like Tesla/Spacex, It makes sense from a personal safety standpoint not to dox their location each time they travel. Doxing people fits whose narrative again? I'm not convinced thats a 'narrative'. Banning links to substack was temporary. Substack released a competitor and was scraping their contact data. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2023/apr/11/row-between-twitter-and-substack-ends-with-uneasy-truce https://www.theguardian.com/media/2023/apr/11/row-between-tw.... How would you handle the situation where you have a company losing money and competitors are sucking your data dry?
        Dylan16807 3y ago
        Scraping contact data in what way? Letting a user trigger some requests when they're moving between sites shouldn't be a problem at all. But either way, that's not a reason to block links, and them being a competitor is not a reason to block links.

Cyph0n 3y ago

The cherry (or turd?) on top is that the platform is manned by a skeleton crew. I kid you not: I recently saw a screenshot of a post by an engineer asking ex-Twitter engineers for help debugging an issue.. on Blind. Mind you, I don’t blame the engineer at all: it just gives you an idea of the mess Musk has made for himself. I think the fact that the platform is still running is a testament to those who built & documented the infra. It’s also a feather on the cap for those who remain to man the ship, particularly if there was no other choice. One catastrophic outage is all it really takes at this point.

darth_avocado 3y ago
I can confirm this is true. Both that Twitter is running on a skeleton crew and that engineers are asking ex-engineers for help.

abledon 3y ago

Elon has said he's ok losing money on Twitter. Its about providing a free speech platform where people with opposing views are allowed to express them.

nharada 3y ago
Please, his actions make it clear that it’s his views he cares about and anyone opposing them is not welcome.
- abledon 3y ago
  > his actions make it clear I haven't seen any actions where he has prevented people from discussions on the platform within the laws of the United States.
  - luuurker 3y ago
    They literally banned journalists reporting on his plane, easily gave in to the Turkish government, tried to ban links to other platforms, etc. It's okay to support someone, but at least do it without filtering out everything that doesn't fit your narrative.
    - abledon 3y ago
      For the Turkish Gov thing, I should've specified US citizens on US Soil. The argument he claims is that a country can decide how they want to operate businesses inside their own borders. Twitter must comply. Its better to be allowed to operate in another country than be kicked out and have another more government subservient tech company replacement step in. If you believe otherwise, I think I would need to hear a strong argument that its the better alternative. If someone is one of the most highly influential people on the planet managing gigantic marketcap companies like Tesla/Spacex, It makes sense from a personal safety standpoint not to dox their location each time they travel. Doxing people fits whose narrative again? I'm not convinced thats a 'narrative'. Banning links to substack was temporary. Substack released a competitor and was scraping their contact data. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2023/apr/11/row-between-twitter-and-substack-ends-with-uneasy-truce https://www.theguardian.com/media/2023/apr/11/row-between-tw.... How would you handle the situation where you have a company losing money and competitors are sucking your data dry?
      - Dylan16807 3y ago
        Scraping contact data in what way? Letting a user trigger some requests when they're moving between sites shouldn't be a problem at all. But either way, that's not a reason to block links, and them being a competitor is not a reason to block links.