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This is incorrect. I had the same issue supporting my family members on good hardware with windows. It was just too common that software updates broke things, r

This is incorrect. I had the same issue supporting my family members on good hardware with windows. It was just too common that software updates broke things, random adware would get installed when they clicked on things, etc. This was windows vista/7 era and when I made them switch to macOS the problems just went away. I think apple seems to be better about making it so non power users can’t accidentally mess things up so much. It doesn’t help that the windows install for a printer includes some huge print center bloatware if you accept defaults and for Mac it didn’t prompt for anything like that (same printer plugged in with usb). I can’t even imagine trying to support them on the new windows with the advertisements and changing stuff in the start menu…

Dylan16807 3y ago
>I had the same issue supporting my family members on good hardware with windows. It was just too common that software updates broke things, random adware would get installed when they clicked on things, etc. Those weren't the issues that needed money. The issue that needed money was "sometimes their machines just needed to be upgraded because they were running the new office, and the new skype and the new chrome, antivirus, etc, and the 3yo system could barely keep up".
jeroenhd 3y ago
Vista/7 was definitely an era filled with questionable choices from both Microsoft and computer manufacturers. Vista was plainly unfinished when it came out (and driver vendors put in 0 effort to update their drivers for a completely revamped driver architecture). 7 was basically what Vista should've been and it was very solid on hardware designed to run it (on hardware released for Vista or even XP, you were still stuck with the terrible drivers from the Vista era). The instability and bloat have changed significantly in the 17 years since Vista came out. The Windows kernel itself is rock solid, most drivers run in user mode so BSODs are extremely rare. There is bloatware, for Windows and for macOS, for all the terrible hardware vendors out there. I remember plugging in my Logitech mouse into a Mac and finding out I need a separate app to configure it properly because various OS mouse settings only apply to Apple hardware for some reason. Printers Just Work these days, unless you buy one of those awful models that requires an app to set up, and then it doesn't matter what desktop OS you use. Microsoft did add ridiculous Microsoft ads and a scummy account requirement to Windows 10 and 11. However, these aren't visible for most users, because most users are already logged in to a Microsoft account. When people talk about "ads" in Windows, they don't mean banner ads, they mean "click here to connect to Microsoft Onedrive with your MS account", not too different from various iCloud related menus I've seen. The way they mess with Edge, that is plain awful. I'm astonished with how much effort Microsoft is putting into shoving Edge down everyone's throats. Edge is the biggest reason not to use Windows in existence. I'm not sure what you mean by "changing stuff in the start menu" so I can't comment on that. However, I'd recommend trying out a Windows VM some time (you can download them from the MS website for free!), because I get the feeling your experiences with Windows are quite outdated.

Dylan16807 3y ago

>I had the same issue supporting my family members on good hardware with windows. It was just too common that software updates broke things, random adware would get installed when they clicked on things, etc. Those weren't the issues that needed money. The issue that needed money was "sometimes their machines just needed to be upgraded because they were running the new office, and the new skype and the new chrome, antivirus, etc, and the 3yo system could barely keep up".

jeroenhd 3y ago

Vista/7 was definitely an era filled with questionable choices from both Microsoft and computer manufacturers. Vista was plainly unfinished when it came out (and driver vendors put in 0 effort to update their drivers for a completely revamped driver architecture). 7 was basically what Vista should've been and it was very solid on hardware designed to run it (on hardware released for Vista or even XP, you were still stuck with the terrible drivers from the Vista era). The instability and bloat have changed significantly in the 17 years since Vista came out. The Windows kernel itself is rock solid, most drivers run in user mode so BSODs are extremely rare. There is bloatware, for Windows and for macOS, for all the terrible hardware vendors out there. I remember plugging in my Logitech mouse into a Mac and finding out I need a separate app to configure it properly because various OS mouse settings only apply to Apple hardware for some reason. Printers Just Work these days, unless you buy one of those awful models that requires an app to set up, and then it doesn't matter what desktop OS you use. Microsoft did add ridiculous Microsoft ads and a scummy account requirement to Windows 10 and 11. However, these aren't visible for most users, because most users are already logged in to a Microsoft account. When people talk about "ads" in Windows, they don't mean banner ads, they mean "click here to connect to Microsoft Onedrive with your MS account", not too different from various iCloud related menus I've seen. The way they mess with Edge, that is plain awful. I'm astonished with how much effort Microsoft is putting into shoving Edge down everyone's throats. Edge is the biggest reason not to use Windows in existence. I'm not sure what you mean by "changing stuff in the start menu" so I can't comment on that. However, I'd recommend trying out a Windows VM some time (you can download them from the MS website for free!), because I get the feeling your experiences with Windows are quite outdated.