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The question in my opinion is not really about specs — no matter how much you spend on your hardware, you can't, pardon my French, take the shitbox out of Windo

The question in my opinion is not really about specs — no matter how much you spend on your hardware, you can't, pardon my French, take the shitbox out of Windows. Device manager and registry still being a thing, reboots to install software, ads in the start menu, etc are a good example of how Windows is not a system for human users. It's amazing how much backwards compatibility they've offered over the decades, yes, but it's also got them holding a lot of smelly baggage.

Dylan16807 3y ago
How often do you have to touch the device manager? Registry is fine. It's not a very big fraction of software that needs a reboot. It's much more common to have an OS update need one, and that's pretty universal across desktop OSes. The ads are bad. Though interestingly those are relatively new, not baggage.
- AlotOfReading 3y ago
  Device manager is usually step 2 or 3 when something is going wrong. When you're fixing someone else's computer, you'll probably spend a lot of time there. Windows also tends to break in mysterious ways after applying OS updates which need to reboot. The observable symptoms are things like network timeouts, performance drops, and random application crashes, but the people you're providing tech support to usually don't have the knowledge to recognize when those are justified problems or windows itself being silly.
- flashback2199 3y ago
  You don't get it. It doesn't matter how many times you have to do X, Y, or Z in Windows. The first time any one of them is needed the entire "non tech savvy person using their computer to get things done" program comes to a complete halt.
- white_dragon88 3y ago
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- figassis 3y ago
  You install autocad, reboot. You install something that uses the camera, reboot, you install an antivirus, reboot, you uninstall any of these things, reboot. Worse is the restore points that never seem to actually restore anything. Often they just make it work because now you're in a weird state where something that was supposed to be there isn't there anymore.
  - Dylan16807 3y ago
    I've installed many things that use the camera and none have needed reboots. And if you're changing antivirus more often than one per 5 years then that's not a normal use case (also defender is fine).
jeroenhd 3y ago
Of course Device Manager and the registry are still a thing. They're part of the operating system. You never need to interact with them unless you try to install some atrocious software or hardware onto your computer, but they're there. I personally find that Linux asks me to reboot more often than Windows does these days. You do need to reboot once or twice a month to apply some kernel updates, but that's really about all you need to do. The shortcuts to install apps like Tiktok are annoying for sure, but they're really not as intrusive as techies like to pretend they are. I have plenty of gripes with Windows (Edge, MS accounts, that kind of thing) but calling it "not a system for human users" is ridiculous.

Dylan16807 3y ago

How often do you have to touch the device manager? Registry is fine. It's not a very big fraction of software that needs a reboot. It's much more common to have an OS update need one, and that's pretty universal across desktop OSes. The ads are bad. Though interestingly those are relatively new, not baggage.

AlotOfReading 3y ago
Device manager is usually step 2 or 3 when something is going wrong. When you're fixing someone else's computer, you'll probably spend a lot of time there. Windows also tends to break in mysterious ways after applying OS updates which need to reboot. The observable symptoms are things like network timeouts, performance drops, and random application crashes, but the people you're providing tech support to usually don't have the knowledge to recognize when those are justified problems or windows itself being silly.
flashback2199 3y ago
You don't get it. It doesn't matter how many times you have to do X, Y, or Z in Windows. The first time any one of them is needed the entire "non tech savvy person using their computer to get things done" program comes to a complete halt.
white_dragon88 3y ago
[dead]
figassis 3y ago
You install autocad, reboot. You install something that uses the camera, reboot, you install an antivirus, reboot, you uninstall any of these things, reboot. Worse is the restore points that never seem to actually restore anything. Often they just make it work because now you're in a weird state where something that was supposed to be there isn't there anymore.
- Dylan16807 3y ago
  I've installed many things that use the camera and none have needed reboots. And if you're changing antivirus more often than one per 5 years then that's not a normal use case (also defender is fine).

jeroenhd 3y ago

Of course Device Manager and the registry are still a thing. They're part of the operating system. You never need to interact with them unless you try to install some atrocious software or hardware onto your computer, but they're there. I personally find that Linux asks me to reboot more often than Windows does these days. You do need to reboot once or twice a month to apply some kernel updates, but that's really about all you need to do. The shortcuts to install apps like Tiktok are annoying for sure, but they're really not as intrusive as techies like to pretend they are. I have plenty of gripes with Windows (Edge, MS accounts, that kind of thing) but calling it "not a system for human users" is ridiculous.