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What specifically do you want? Government cameras pointed at drivers?
by osigurdson 3y ago
What specifically do you want? Government cameras pointed at drivers?
- mlyle 3y agoMaybe: lots of cameras around with evidence available to discovery, but held by relatively many parties (dashcams, private vehicles, business owners) and without automated aggregation and processing of personal information.
- osigurdson 3y agoI think we need to change the rule that it is legal to take anyone’s picture without asking. We need less cameras, not more.
- mlyle 3y agoLots of cameras have been good at curbing lots of abuses. Concentrated power with cameras-- one party controlling a lot of them, and doing automated aggregation of information-- has been bad for privacy. Lots of cameras in public without the abuses of aggregating information seems best.
- woodruffw 3y agoI’ll frame it in terms of outcomes: I don’t think any pedestrian or cyclist should be killed anonymously by a driver. I also don’t think drivers should feel empowered to casually disregard the laws of the road, as they currently do when they feel as if there are no consequences. That doesn’t have to mean “government cameras”; I’m open to any solution that achieves those goals, including stricter licensing, urban redesign, harsher fines, etc.
- osigurdson 3y agoWhen discussing populations, stating that a certain outcome should never happen isn’t reasonable. We need to look at the current rate and try to improve upon it.
- woodruffw 3y agoYou can replace “any” with “a vanishingly small number” if it makes the comment more palatable to you.
- osigurdson 3y agoTrading noise for noise at the population level never works. I’m not sure where all of these anonymous hit and run fatalities are happening in any case. How would you possibly avoid 100% of those even if going full draconian?
- singleshot_ 3y agoVery slow Nerf cars.
- mozman 3y agoThis is so dystopian. Some people kill others and run.. but let's not let a few asshole justify draconian surveillance for everyone else. I may like to go faster than the speedlimit sometimes.. why should I give that up?
- marcosdumay 3y agoPointed at cars, obviously. There are many of those, in many formats, with many different behaviors. I'm not sure what lack of surveillance the OP is talking about. But there does exist a high reluctance of transit rule enforcers to enforce transit rules, together with a high bias into looking only at the rules aimed at protecting the people inside the car, mostly at places where the car is creates the least risk to people outside of it.
- dirtyid 3y agoMandetory black box dash cams to qualify for insurance. Offline access only. A crash where dash cam is not recoverable is going to be one where the driver shouldn't walk away regardless.
- red-iron-pine 3y agothat's a thing in trains, and may be a thing in airplanes.