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1. Is it really a surprise coming from Musk? 2. Teslas are not built in the UK, between the import duties from brexit and the extra strong recession from brexi

1. Is it really a surprise coming from Musk? 2. Teslas are not built in the UK, between the import duties from brexit and the extra strong recession from brexit, I wouldn’t assume it’s a huge market for tesla 3. Same as japan, where teslas are status symbols for people with a lot of money, they sell low-mid thousands a year, which is less than they sell in Norway (a country with 1/20th the population) in a month. That leaves australia, I’ve no idea what the EV market is over there. Though I would assume range anxiety is pretty major concern, SA, NT, and most of WA (and QLD outside of the coast) seem to have very little coverage on anything but 3-phase in caravan parks.

alibarber 3y ago
What import duties are Telsas imported into the UK subject to that would be different to those imported or built in the EU?
seanmcdirmid 3y ago
This only applies to the S and X we are talking about, which aren’t huge sellers to begin with unlike the 3 and Y (that still have RHD versions and are the vast majority of UK, JP, and AU sales).
bb123 3y ago
This is just plain wrong. Last year Tesla sold 56,000 cars in the UK. That makes it about the same size market as the next three largest European countries combined. Given the doom mongering in the news you’d assume everyone in the UK is foraging in bins for their food, but the reality is there is plenty of people with money.
- carlmr 3y ago
  >you’d assume everyone in the UK is foraging in bins for their food, but the reality is there is plenty of people with money. There is almost never a dearth of people with money. The median income is more telling about the state of a nation.
  - bb123 3y ago
    Agreed - the U.K.’s is around 15% higher than their closest neighbour, France.
- alibarber 3y ago
  Unfortunately Brexit means that people can just make up whatever they want to support their narrative, such as these mysterious import duties mentioned here. Don't get me wrong, I'm as remain as the next guy, but it does get a bit hysterical sometimes.
lancewiggs 3y ago
Australia has poor incentives to buy EVs. New Zealand is doing very well with 30-50% of new/all vehicles registered in June being EV/PHEV or hybrid. India, Pakistan, Indonesia and Bangladesh all want a word. They, with Japan, are all right hand drive and have over 2.1b people.
tivert 3y ago
> I wouldn’t assume it’s a huge market for tesla You should've read the article: > The automaker decided to stop selling Model S and Model X vehicles altogether in some smaller left-hand-drive markets, like Australia, Singapore, and Thailand, and started offering right-hand-drive vehicles in bigger markets, like in the UK. It's a "bigger market" for them, and not so small they could write it off completely.

alibarber 3y ago

What import duties are Telsas imported into the UK subject to that would be different to those imported or built in the EU?

seanmcdirmid 3y ago

This only applies to the S and X we are talking about, which aren’t huge sellers to begin with unlike the 3 and Y (that still have RHD versions and are the vast majority of UK, JP, and AU sales).

bb123 3y ago

This is just plain wrong. Last year Tesla sold 56,000 cars in the UK. That makes it about the same size market as the next three largest European countries combined. Given the doom mongering in the news you’d assume everyone in the UK is foraging in bins for their food, but the reality is there is plenty of people with money.

carlmr 3y ago
>you’d assume everyone in the UK is foraging in bins for their food, but the reality is there is plenty of people with money. There is almost never a dearth of people with money. The median income is more telling about the state of a nation.
- bb123 3y ago
  Agreed - the U.K.’s is around 15% higher than their closest neighbour, France.
alibarber 3y ago
Unfortunately Brexit means that people can just make up whatever they want to support their narrative, such as these mysterious import duties mentioned here. Don't get me wrong, I'm as remain as the next guy, but it does get a bit hysterical sometimes.

lancewiggs 3y ago

Australia has poor incentives to buy EVs. New Zealand is doing very well with 30-50% of new/all vehicles registered in June being EV/PHEV or hybrid. India, Pakistan, Indonesia and Bangladesh all want a word. They, with Japan, are all right hand drive and have over 2.1b people.

tivert 3y ago

> I wouldn’t assume it’s a huge market for tesla You should've read the article: > The automaker decided to stop selling Model S and Model X vehicles altogether in some smaller left-hand-drive markets, like Australia, Singapore, and Thailand, and started offering right-hand-drive vehicles in bigger markets, like in the UK. It's a "bigger market" for them, and not so small they could write it off completely.