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Its all Ad Feuled content generation. It will end outside the US much faster cuz the Ad spends per person are much much lower. And therefore the polluted conte

by gsatic 3y ago

Its all Ad Feuled content generation. It will end outside the US much faster cuz the Ad spends per person are much much lower. And therefore the polluted content too is much less. US advertising is a 350 Billion a Yr business. That's Not even counting political Ads. For comparison China is 150 billion UK is 45B and India is 15B. This is the Cost of Production of Info pollution. Cost of consumption can be seen in the Mental Health of all Americans. Americans don't realize how much their brains have been fucked up by marketing from birth. Now it's the AI brain getting fucked based on the same sewage. Other countries desperately want to be the next US. So the sooner they realize what the end state of runaway marketing/advertising funded Content does the more likely we will see drastic change to Information landscape

NovaDudely 3y ago
This is my main reservation against having kids... am I just providing more meat for the grinder? To see them sucked into the marketing machine at the age of 3. To bring others into a society that is fundamentally a little sick? It is my main issue but it is also the only thing that keeps me awake at night.
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- ChatGTP 3y ago
  I think most people just let themselves get sucked in though, you already seem aware enough to avoid it, so I don’t think you’re kids would be like that either. I have to say, I find America’s to have a lot of hyper gullible people as compared to other countries though and I do agree with you’re point.
- germinalphrase 3y ago
  So… don’t do that? I am more proud of my young children than anything else in my life. Edit: you can’t insulated them from everything (nor would you want to), but you can support and reinforce their authentic interests that aren’t driven by mass culture - and you can work to maintain boundaries around your values. Maintaining clear boundaries in a responsive and loving way is often really hard, but is probably the most important thing - in my opinion.
- nradov 3y ago
  Society has always been more than a little sick. I'm happy that my kids have to deal with marketing instead of living as feudal serfs and then dying of bubonic plague.
Ygg2 3y ago
Is it though all ad fueled content generation? Sure some will be, but I doubt most content is. If I write a children's book, is it ad fueled or did I write it because I wanted to write it.
- gsatic 3y ago
  The UN report on the Attention Economy points out only 0.5% of content produced is consumed. And that was from 2015. Google, Youtube, Facebook, TikTok are not going to tell content creators that. They want everyone busy searching for an audience (to hand off to Advertisors). And everyone wants Attention. But there are not enough eyeballs. Yet the mindless marketing mega machine is still running and projecting consumption growth. Content creators are getting paid. How come? It all very similar to the subprime meltdown. There too everyone seemed to be having a good time. The machine is so over optimized and efficient, it will get ppl to buy your book, and the majority will never have time to read it, or forget about anything in it a few days after consuming it. Their entire shtick has been we will give you free tools, free distribution (ala free mortgages). You guys generate content. Your job is to find audience and get glory. So everyone is falling over each other producing content. But what they dont tell anyone is they cant generate new eyeballs to consume it all. So content has been exploding. How is consumption supposed to grow? The views come from getting ppl to be more and more scatter focused. Attention to anything is breaking down to the point where ppl are completely lost and overloaded by Info. For what? To keeping selling Ads. People will keep going into debt and keep buying whatever shit the Ads tell them too. Another promise they made was their search results and news feed will highlight the best quality content. But anyone can see what kinds of total shit gets propped up everyday, because the platforms themselves are over run by content and spam. Cost to spam has dropped to 0 cause the tools are all free. Again all this is thanks to the need to show Ads everywhere. Every search query show an ad. Every inch of a stream show an Ad. The majority doesn't have the eyeballs or the disposable income to keep content factories running. Its Ads. Disney's Bob Iger has said their pipelines can produce marvel level blockbusters everyday, but there are not enough ppl to pay the bill. So what to do? Look at Netflix - start showing ads. Chat GPT et al might break the curse of ad infested news feeds and search results. And advertisers, marketers, govts and content creators are all equally effected by the breaking down of Attention. The big question is what does a new system look like where Attention isnt being exploited and Info overload is under control.
avgcorrection 3y ago
> Other countries desperately want to be the next US. Americans still think it’s 2005 huh.

by gsatic 3y ago

NovaDudely 3y ago

This is my main reservation against having kids... am I just providing more meat for the grinder? To see them sucked into the marketing machine at the age of 3. To bring others into a society that is fundamentally a little sick? It is my main issue but it is also the only thing that keeps me awake at night.

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ChatGTP 3y ago
I think most people just let themselves get sucked in though, you already seem aware enough to avoid it, so I don’t think you’re kids would be like that either. I have to say, I find America’s to have a lot of hyper gullible people as compared to other countries though and I do agree with you’re point.
germinalphrase 3y ago
So… don’t do that? I am more proud of my young children than anything else in my life. Edit: you can’t insulated them from everything (nor would you want to), but you can support and reinforce their authentic interests that aren’t driven by mass culture - and you can work to maintain boundaries around your values. Maintaining clear boundaries in a responsive and loving way is often really hard, but is probably the most important thing - in my opinion.
nradov 3y ago
Society has always been more than a little sick. I'm happy that my kids have to deal with marketing instead of living as feudal serfs and then dying of bubonic plague.

Ygg2 3y ago

Is it though all ad fueled content generation? Sure some will be, but I doubt most content is. If I write a children's book, is it ad fueled or did I write it because I wanted to write it.

gsatic 3y ago
The UN report on the Attention Economy points out only 0.5% of content produced is consumed. And that was from 2015. Google, Youtube, Facebook, TikTok are not going to tell content creators that. They want everyone busy searching for an audience (to hand off to Advertisors). And everyone wants Attention. But there are not enough eyeballs. Yet the mindless marketing mega machine is still running and projecting consumption growth. Content creators are getting paid. How come? It all very similar to the subprime meltdown. There too everyone seemed to be having a good time. The machine is so over optimized and efficient, it will get ppl to buy your book, and the majority will never have time to read it, or forget about anything in it a few days after consuming it. Their entire shtick has been we will give you free tools, free distribution (ala free mortgages). You guys generate content. Your job is to find audience and get glory. So everyone is falling over each other producing content. But what they dont tell anyone is they cant generate new eyeballs to consume it all. So content has been exploding. How is consumption supposed to grow? The views come from getting ppl to be more and more scatter focused. Attention to anything is breaking down to the point where ppl are completely lost and overloaded by Info. For what? To keeping selling Ads. People will keep going into debt and keep buying whatever shit the Ads tell them too. Another promise they made was their search results and news feed will highlight the best quality content. But anyone can see what kinds of total shit gets propped up everyday, because the platforms themselves are over run by content and spam. Cost to spam has dropped to 0 cause the tools are all free. Again all this is thanks to the need to show Ads everywhere. Every search query show an ad. Every inch of a stream show an Ad. The majority doesn't have the eyeballs or the disposable income to keep content factories running. Its Ads. Disney's Bob Iger has said their pipelines can produce marvel level blockbusters everyday, but there are not enough ppl to pay the bill. So what to do? Look at Netflix - start showing ads. Chat GPT et al might break the curse of ad infested news feeds and search results. And advertisers, marketers, govts and content creators are all equally effected by the breaking down of Attention. The big question is what does a new system look like where Attention isnt being exploited and Info overload is under control.

avgcorrection 3y ago

> Other countries desperately want to be the next US. Americans still think it’s 2005 huh.