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Sounds like we really need some top universities, maybe new ones, to increase acceptance 10X or more, back to the level where they’d accept people who would’ve

Sounds like we really need some top universities, maybe new ones, to increase acceptance 10X or more, back to the level where they’d accept people who would’ve been accepted in 1970 with the same scores.

hsbauauvhabzb 3y ago
Or to stop placing value on institutions who have dubious impacts in most fields at best…
doctorpangloss 3y ago
> maybe new ones There already exists tons of pre existing institutions that will give a great education to those students with many gifts. The twisted thing is if your parents send you to cram school and you DON’T get into Harvard, even if you have cognitive gifts, you’re going to still be drinking heavily at Berkeley from burnout. So the institution that does receive you doesn’t get the whole You. It’s up to the high schools to take the first step to limit the stress, which has been a consensus opinion for at least a decade. And yet, I really doubt that’s going to happen in the high schools I’m personally familiar with. Nonetheless some brands, like Montessori, have achieved this (less stress, same education) for younger students, so my hopes are high.
ipaddr 3y ago
Add more ivy league schools to the point where they are common? Increase the size of existing schools so they accept more? Raise the value of suny schools by advertising? Luring top teachers? Syndicate top teachers content to virtual campuses branded by the Ivy League? Ban foreign students? Employers want a ranked list. Parents want a ranked list. Schools ranked high want a rank list of the best schools. How do you get around human nature to appear better than a neighbour and a ranked list of the best schools gives parents/kids an easy template for a successful career?
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MattGaiser 3y ago
This won't change the stress. It will just move to something else, as a lot of the value in university is how it ranks you compared to others and one way or another, there will be some kind of ranking system.

hsbauauvhabzb 3y ago

Or to stop placing value on institutions who have dubious impacts in most fields at best…

doctorpangloss 3y ago

> maybe new ones There already exists tons of pre existing institutions that will give a great education to those students with many gifts. The twisted thing is if your parents send you to cram school and you DON’T get into Harvard, even if you have cognitive gifts, you’re going to still be drinking heavily at Berkeley from burnout. So the institution that does receive you doesn’t get the whole You. It’s up to the high schools to take the first step to limit the stress, which has been a consensus opinion for at least a decade. And yet, I really doubt that’s going to happen in the high schools I’m personally familiar with. Nonetheless some brands, like Montessori, have achieved this (less stress, same education) for younger students, so my hopes are high.

ipaddr 3y ago

Add more ivy league schools to the point where they are common? Increase the size of existing schools so they accept more? Raise the value of suny schools by advertising? Luring top teachers? Syndicate top teachers content to virtual campuses branded by the Ivy League? Ban foreign students? Employers want a ranked list. Parents want a ranked list. Schools ranked high want a rank list of the best schools. How do you get around human nature to appear better than a neighbour and a ranked list of the best schools gives parents/kids an easy template for a successful career?

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MattGaiser 3y ago

This won't change the stress. It will just move to something else, as a lot of the value in university is how it ranks you compared to others and one way or another, there will be some kind of ranking system.