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Not everyone is a pacifist willing to live in slavery. Sometimes people need weapons to defend themselves.
by merpnderp 3y ago
Not everyone is a pacifist willing to live in slavery. Sometimes people need weapons to defend themselves.
- dabluecaboose 3y ago"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things: the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth a war, is much worse." -John Stuart Mill
- giraffe_lady 3y agoThinking nothing is worth a war is not the problem the US has with war, historically.
- ahartmetz 3y agoQuite true, but the war at hand is clearly one of defense (for the Ukrainian side).
- mensetmanusman 3y agoIt took Pearl Harbor to get America involved in WW2. Prior ~80% were against doing anything to resist Hitler that might result in violent conflict.
- avgcorrection 3y agoAmerica was famously “isolationist” at the time, yes. Obviously one is talking about US policy after WWII and up until the present.
- avgcorrection 3y agoMaybe the same applied to the British Empire of John Stuart Mill’s time.
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- x3874 3y agoThe US needs Stingers to defend either themselves or a current NATO member exactly how? Because clever replies like "got news to catch up": Hint: neither the US or NATO members are directly involved in the war between UA and RU, or any other war (yes, the US is always at war with other nations.) US giving away billions in equipment for a foreign actor and thus creating the need to replenish stock is all on them.
- elteto 3y agoYou have roughly a year and a half of news to catch up to. Start with European news.
- murkt 3y agoIf US and NATO countries did nothing and Ukraine would lose the war, next step Russia would attack Poland or Baltics, and China would attack Taiwan.
- slim 3y agoin this case correct action would have been to attack russia preemptively /s
- nradov 3y agoDegrading the Russian military through a proxy war is the cheapest and safest way to defend our NATO allies in Eastern Europe. Regardless of whether Russia eventually wins or loses in Ukraine, their military capabilities are being shattered and will take decades to rebuild.
- hackandthink 3y agoIt is not cheap. It costs many lives.
- ceejayoz 3y agoIt is incredibly cheap in terms of dollars spent by NATO to kneecap the Russian military and prevent future expansion. The US spent trillions for decades preparing for this sort of fight, all the way up to Ronald Reagan’s Star Wars stuff… and it turned out that something like 20% of one year’s US military budget (and some very brave, determined allies) does the trick.