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> We might never make a repository of human made content with no Ai postings in it ever again. Wow, never thought of it that way before. Kinda hit me hard for

> We might never make a repository of human made content with no Ai postings in it ever again. Wow, never thought of it that way before. Kinda hit me hard for some reason.

thatguy0900 3y ago
Honestly I think that's why reddit is closing itself up too. Everyone sitting on a website like this might be sitting on a Ai training goldmine that can never be replicated.
- yuuuuuuuu 3y ago
  One that's slowly ageing away though.
- TeMPOraL 3y ago
  Too little too late. Anything pre-ChatGPT is already scrapped, packaged and mirrored around the Internet; anything post ChatGPT launch is increasingly mixed up with LLM-generated output. And it's not that the most recent data has any extra value. You don't need most recent knowledge to train LLMs. They're not good for reproducing facts anyway. Training up their "cognitive abilities" doesn't need fresh data, it needs just human-generated data.
  - KnobbleMcKnees 3y ago
    Precisely, which brings us back around to the question: why are social media companies really doing this? I think "AI is takin' ooor contents!" is a convenient excuse to tighten the screws further. Having a Boogeyman in the form of technology that's already under worried discussion by press and politicians is a great way to convince users how super-super-serious the problem must be, and to blow a dog whistle at other companies to indicate they should so the same. It's no coincidence that the first two companies to do this so actively and recently are both overvalued, not profitable, and don't actually directly produce any of the content on their platforms.
echelon 3y ago
Synthetic data fed into training isn't necessarily a bad thing. It can produce great results in many cases.
- ricardobayes 3y ago
  I've seen that work with self-driving cars. Simulating driving data is actually better since you can introduce black swan events that might not happen often in real world.

> We might never make a repository of human made content with no Ai postings in it ever again. Wow, never thought of it that way before. Kinda hit me hard for some reason.

thatguy0900 3y ago

Honestly I think that's why reddit is closing itself up too. Everyone sitting on a website like this might be sitting on a Ai training goldmine that can never be replicated.

yuuuuuuuu 3y ago
One that's slowly ageing away though.
TeMPOraL 3y ago
Too little too late. Anything pre-ChatGPT is already scrapped, packaged and mirrored around the Internet; anything post ChatGPT launch is increasingly mixed up with LLM-generated output. And it's not that the most recent data has any extra value. You don't need most recent knowledge to train LLMs. They're not good for reproducing facts anyway. Training up their "cognitive abilities" doesn't need fresh data, it needs just human-generated data.
- KnobbleMcKnees 3y ago
  Precisely, which brings us back around to the question: why are social media companies really doing this? I think "AI is takin' ooor contents!" is a convenient excuse to tighten the screws further. Having a Boogeyman in the form of technology that's already under worried discussion by press and politicians is a great way to convince users how super-super-serious the problem must be, and to blow a dog whistle at other companies to indicate they should so the same. It's no coincidence that the first two companies to do this so actively and recently are both overvalued, not profitable, and don't actually directly produce any of the content on their platforms.

echelon 3y ago

Synthetic data fed into training isn't necessarily a bad thing. It can produce great results in many cases.

ricardobayes 3y ago
I've seen that work with self-driving cars. Simulating driving data is actually better since you can introduce black swan events that might not happen often in real world.