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Hm, I have the opposite point of view: I don’t see why anybody uses Spotify when Youtube gives you the same thing for the same price and throws in ad free yout

by s17n 3y ago

Hm, I have the opposite point of view: I don’t see why anybody uses Spotify when Youtube gives you the same thing for the same price and throws in ad free youtube at no extra charge.

asdff 3y ago
I'm thinking about making the move off spotify. Does youtube premium let you locally download music?
- gretch 3y ago
  Yes it does. Source: I just tried it on my phone right now. platform - iOS (don't know about others). Also, possibly not possible for all songs or countries in the world.
lostlogin 3y ago
> I don’t see why anybody uses Spotify Maybe the force feeding of obnoxious podcast hosts actually attracted some users?
- tough 3y ago
  A lost occasion to also blame advertising
Macha 3y ago
Really the only reason I used Spotify over YouTube Music at all was that I could use my own clients with Spotify, but once Spotify killed that it was over to YouTube music for me for my streaming usage (though I buy a lot more downloads these days than my peak spotify usage days). YouTube Music doesn't have third party clients either, but with that selling point removed, ad-free youtube was a better add-on than anything spotify offered.
- KnobbleMcKnees 3y ago
  I was a mopify/mopidy fan for a while but my installation fell over about a year ago and I never returned to fix it - does that no longer work at all with Spotify APIs? If so, that's definitely a huge downside to Spotify (though I have no idea if it's possible with YT music).
BLKNSLVR 3y ago
I use Spotify because I don't want to pay any money to Google. Although I did subscribe to Google Play Music, and it was great, until they killed it. And that was it for me and Google.
- dabluecaboose 3y ago
  Curious if you found another viable alternative. Ive gone over to using Plex/Plexamp for music sync/cloud play and its been pretty okayish on the whole. Biggest issues are my server strength and internet connection
  - BLKNSLVR 3y ago
    I really mainly use Spotify because of the combination of its library size and ease of availability / accessibility. (Although John Zorn's catalogue remains an elusive beast) I use LMS for my small, curated personal music library, which is great: https://github.com/epoupon/lms https://github.com/epoupon/lms
KnobbleMcKnees 3y ago
It mostly boils down to the algorithm for me. I tried YouTube music for a few months and it felt much more spaghetti-at-the-wall than Spotify. My opinion is that this is because of the way that Spotify applies algorithm and curation in a highly unified way. Spotify Radio, Release Radar and Discovery playlist are just wonderful. Right down to the ordering of the lists it accounts for broad tastes, current personal trends, building accessible gateways to new genres and so on. YouTube Music felt a bit like the video algorithm. "You watched a Minecraft video? Prepare for the avalanche of tenuously related but quite obnoxious Minecraft content"
- utucuro 3y ago
  This is was weird to read... I was a Spotify user for a rather long time, but realized that instead of getting better, recommendations got worse, ultimately becoming quite repetitive. I've since ditched them, now using Deezer. The difference is like day and night - with Deezer, if I want it to generate a playlist based on a particular song, I actually get a playlist of songs which are similar to the one I chose and not just the popular songs of bands similar to the band of the song... As for Discover Weekly, it was the worst offender, rehashing stuff Spotify knew I had listened to.
  - KnobbleMcKnees 3y ago
    That is strange as it's not my experience, but I don't know how the algorithm functions internally. Sadly we are at the whim of it's hits and it's misses. I am however left to assume, based on Spotify's broad success and appeal, that it hits a bit more frequently than it misses.

by s17n 3y ago

Hm, I have the opposite point of view: I don’t see why anybody uses Spotify when Youtube gives you the same thing for the same price and throws in ad free youtube at no extra charge.

asdff 3y ago

I'm thinking about making the move off spotify. Does youtube premium let you locally download music?

gretch 3y ago
Yes it does. Source: I just tried it on my phone right now. platform - iOS (don't know about others). Also, possibly not possible for all songs or countries in the world.

lostlogin 3y ago

> I don’t see why anybody uses Spotify Maybe the force feeding of obnoxious podcast hosts actually attracted some users?

tough 3y ago
A lost occasion to also blame advertising

Macha 3y ago

Really the only reason I used Spotify over YouTube Music at all was that I could use my own clients with Spotify, but once Spotify killed that it was over to YouTube music for me for my streaming usage (though I buy a lot more downloads these days than my peak spotify usage days). YouTube Music doesn't have third party clients either, but with that selling point removed, ad-free youtube was a better add-on than anything spotify offered.

KnobbleMcKnees 3y ago
I was a mopify/mopidy fan for a while but my installation fell over about a year ago and I never returned to fix it - does that no longer work at all with Spotify APIs? If so, that's definitely a huge downside to Spotify (though I have no idea if it's possible with YT music).

BLKNSLVR 3y ago

I use Spotify because I don't want to pay any money to Google. Although I did subscribe to Google Play Music, and it was great, until they killed it. And that was it for me and Google.

dabluecaboose 3y ago
Curious if you found another viable alternative. Ive gone over to using Plex/Plexamp for music sync/cloud play and its been pretty okayish on the whole. Biggest issues are my server strength and internet connection
- BLKNSLVR 3y ago
  I really mainly use Spotify because of the combination of its library size and ease of availability / accessibility. (Although John Zorn's catalogue remains an elusive beast) I use LMS for my small, curated personal music library, which is great: https://github.com/epoupon/lms https://github.com/epoupon/lms

KnobbleMcKnees 3y ago

It mostly boils down to the algorithm for me. I tried YouTube music for a few months and it felt much more spaghetti-at-the-wall than Spotify. My opinion is that this is because of the way that Spotify applies algorithm and curation in a highly unified way. Spotify Radio, Release Radar and Discovery playlist are just wonderful. Right down to the ordering of the lists it accounts for broad tastes, current personal trends, building accessible gateways to new genres and so on. YouTube Music felt a bit like the video algorithm. "You watched a Minecraft video? Prepare for the avalanche of tenuously related but quite obnoxious Minecraft content"

utucuro 3y ago
This is was weird to read... I was a Spotify user for a rather long time, but realized that instead of getting better, recommendations got worse, ultimately becoming quite repetitive. I've since ditched them, now using Deezer. The difference is like day and night - with Deezer, if I want it to generate a playlist based on a particular song, I actually get a playlist of songs which are similar to the one I chose and not just the popular songs of bands similar to the band of the song... As for Discover Weekly, it was the worst offender, rehashing stuff Spotify knew I had listened to.
- KnobbleMcKnees 3y ago
  That is strange as it's not my experience, but I don't know how the algorithm functions internally. Sadly we are at the whim of it's hits and it's misses. I am however left to assume, based on Spotify's broad success and appeal, that it hits a bit more frequently than it misses.