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There's been a lot of community backlash in Pokemon Go (#HearUsNiantic Niantic movement)and the game director response to it was that the company has “no plans

There's been a lot of community backlash in Pokemon Go (#HearUsNiantic Niantic movement)and the game director response to it was that the company has “no plans to directly address any of [it]” [0] The fan base is very loyal to the Pokemon brand and it really feels Pokemon Go is successful despite all of Niantic's shenanigans. [0] https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemongo/comments/13lfd1c/its_official_they_wont_listen_and_their_killing/ https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemongo/comments/13lfd1c/its_offi...

coding123 3y ago
It seems somewhat comical to me that there's some kind of protest against niantic and it's being hosted on reddit.
hospitalJail 3y ago
>The fan base is very loyal to the Pokemon brand I find it interesting that Nintendo fans can recognize they are slaves to the IP, but they don't change their buying habits. For instance, if BOTW was released under a different IP skin and released for xbox, it would probably be a 6-8/10. Since we were marketed to as children, I think we have limited free will when nostalgia comes up. We automatically give our childhood friends(corporate mascots) a pass on quality. I am guilty, I keep playing every Zelda religiously, despite thinking BOTW wasnt good, I still plan to play TotK. I don't know why I do it. I feel like I need to play it. I might have been a pokemon go addict, but the closest pokecenter(or whatever) was like a 5 minute drive/10 minute walk away. Scary stuff. I know some people who are similar with Disney IP.
- kbenson 3y ago
  > For instance, if BOTW was released under a different IP skin and released for xbox, it would probably be a 6-8/10. If released today, then maybe. BOTW being a good game has nothing to do with it being on the switch. Getting enough audience immediately to be a phenomenon and enough people/press interested in it to spend time so it it got enough reviews that everyone saw them, sure, but the game itself is extremely good based on most people's opinions I've heard, even people that are routinely playing Xbox, PS or PC games. I think perhaps your experience is colored by you not quite liking it as much as others so assuming it was nostalgia goggles. I can assure you, in many many cases (IMO the vast majority of them), that's not what was going on. > I am guilty, I keep playing every Zelda religiously, despite thinking BOTW wasnt good, I still plan to play TotK. I don't know why I do it. I feel like I need to play it. I felt like this back when Metroid Prime came out. It was okay, and fun, but I also didn't really feel a huge urge to play the next game in the series, and I haven't played a Metroid in some time (even though metroidvania is one of my favorite genres and I play other games in it). Different people like different aspects of games. Sometimes games lean into one aspect or another, often when there's a major shift in them (such as 2d to 3d, but not always), and people that likes that aspect are happy and people that weren't as interested in that aspect may be disappointed to varying degrees. For me, Zelda was always at least partially about exploring everything. I remember revisiting every screen on the map over and over after I got new items to see if I could get to new areas of do new things. BotW brought that in spades, since you could literally go everywhere, and that was rarely done as well in prior games on any systems (it gets easier/possible to get to new sub-areas as the game progresses and you get more stamina, which is a nice way to promote revisiting areas to explore where you couldn't get previously, or novel approaches to getting to areas). I'm sure some people dislike that, or feel bored by it, but many do not.
- praisewhitey 3y ago
  >For instance, if BOTW was released under a different IP skin and released for xbox, it would probably be a 6-8/10. That game is Genshin Impact and it's very successful
  - hospitalJail 3y ago
    Genshin Impact was actually good though.
- sangnoir 3y ago
  > For instance, if BOTW was released under a different IP skin and released for xbox, it would probably be a 6-8/10. Hard disagree. I was a PC gamer since forever and decided to buy a Switch when I had to travel a lot (pre-Steam-Deck days). BoTW was my first Zelda game (and second Nintendo game ever, after playing Mario on PC). I'm not a Nintendo fan, I'm not a Zelda fan, and I still consider BoTW to be a 10/10 game. It's the best game I've played in years and it's in my top 3 games of all time. The only quibble I have is with the crafting system, but I'm not big on crafting in any game, everything else is perfect: combat, open-world roaming, pacing, puzzles, character design, level design - everything. Nothing was half-assed.
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- rjh29 3y ago
  > For instance, if BOTW was released under a different IP skin and released for xbox, it would probably be a 6-8/10. This reads like an attempt to justify why you didn't like the game but other people did. You know, you can just say "games are subjective" without reaching into this whole meta theory that people are slaves or somehow don't know what a good game is.
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londons_explore 3y ago
Is Pokemon Go successful? I feel it was huge for a few months in 2016, and then died as everyone moved on to other things.
- wnevets 3y ago
  > Is Pokemon Go successful? obnoxiously so.
- agrippanux 3y ago
  It makes a billion a year in rev so I’d say its still going pretty well.
  - paulgb 3y ago
    Woah! As someone who hasn't paid much attention since the initial launch, I had no idea. Here's the business model: > Besides in-game purchases, partnerships with retail chains like Starbucks, McDonald's, Sprint, pay Niantic Labs for "Foot Traffic" on-demand of the retail shops.
    - charlieyu1 3y ago
      Is it Japanese only collaboration?
    - swarnie 3y ago
      The trick was combining a popular franchise with aggressive whale seeking monetisation and having that all backed up by three figure agencies. The app more than did its jo.
      - sushid 3y ago
        You lost me at three figure agencies. Are you saying that the FTC should be somehow involved here? What other agencies are you referring to?
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coding123 3y ago

It seems somewhat comical to me that there's some kind of protest against niantic and it's being hosted on reddit.

hospitalJail 3y ago

>The fan base is very loyal to the Pokemon brand I find it interesting that Nintendo fans can recognize they are slaves to the IP, but they don't change their buying habits. For instance, if BOTW was released under a different IP skin and released for xbox, it would probably be a 6-8/10. Since we were marketed to as children, I think we have limited free will when nostalgia comes up. We automatically give our childhood friends(corporate mascots) a pass on quality. I am guilty, I keep playing every Zelda religiously, despite thinking BOTW wasnt good, I still plan to play TotK. I don't know why I do it. I feel like I need to play it. I might have been a pokemon go addict, but the closest pokecenter(or whatever) was like a 5 minute drive/10 minute walk away. Scary stuff. I know some people who are similar with Disney IP.

kbenson 3y ago
> For instance, if BOTW was released under a different IP skin and released for xbox, it would probably be a 6-8/10. If released today, then maybe. BOTW being a good game has nothing to do with it being on the switch. Getting enough audience immediately to be a phenomenon and enough people/press interested in it to spend time so it it got enough reviews that everyone saw them, sure, but the game itself is extremely good based on most people's opinions I've heard, even people that are routinely playing Xbox, PS or PC games. I think perhaps your experience is colored by you not quite liking it as much as others so assuming it was nostalgia goggles. I can assure you, in many many cases (IMO the vast majority of them), that's not what was going on. > I am guilty, I keep playing every Zelda religiously, despite thinking BOTW wasnt good, I still plan to play TotK. I don't know why I do it. I feel like I need to play it. I felt like this back when Metroid Prime came out. It was okay, and fun, but I also didn't really feel a huge urge to play the next game in the series, and I haven't played a Metroid in some time (even though metroidvania is one of my favorite genres and I play other games in it). Different people like different aspects of games. Sometimes games lean into one aspect or another, often when there's a major shift in them (such as 2d to 3d, but not always), and people that likes that aspect are happy and people that weren't as interested in that aspect may be disappointed to varying degrees. For me, Zelda was always at least partially about exploring everything. I remember revisiting every screen on the map over and over after I got new items to see if I could get to new areas of do new things. BotW brought that in spades, since you could literally go everywhere, and that was rarely done as well in prior games on any systems (it gets easier/possible to get to new sub-areas as the game progresses and you get more stamina, which is a nice way to promote revisiting areas to explore where you couldn't get previously, or novel approaches to getting to areas). I'm sure some people dislike that, or feel bored by it, but many do not.
praisewhitey 3y ago
>For instance, if BOTW was released under a different IP skin and released for xbox, it would probably be a 6-8/10. That game is Genshin Impact and it's very successful
- hospitalJail 3y ago
  Genshin Impact was actually good though.
sangnoir 3y ago
> For instance, if BOTW was released under a different IP skin and released for xbox, it would probably be a 6-8/10. Hard disagree. I was a PC gamer since forever and decided to buy a Switch when I had to travel a lot (pre-Steam-Deck days). BoTW was my first Zelda game (and second Nintendo game ever, after playing Mario on PC). I'm not a Nintendo fan, I'm not a Zelda fan, and I still consider BoTW to be a 10/10 game. It's the best game I've played in years and it's in my top 3 games of all time. The only quibble I have is with the crafting system, but I'm not big on crafting in any game, everything else is perfect: combat, open-world roaming, pacing, puzzles, character design, level design - everything. Nothing was half-assed.
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rjh29 3y ago
> For instance, if BOTW was released under a different IP skin and released for xbox, it would probably be a 6-8/10. This reads like an attempt to justify why you didn't like the game but other people did. You know, you can just say "games are subjective" without reaching into this whole meta theory that people are slaves or somehow don't know what a good game is.

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londons_explore 3y ago

Is Pokemon Go successful? I feel it was huge for a few months in 2016, and then died as everyone moved on to other things.

wnevets 3y ago
> Is Pokemon Go successful? obnoxiously so.
agrippanux 3y ago
It makes a billion a year in rev so I’d say its still going pretty well.
- paulgb 3y ago
  Woah! As someone who hasn't paid much attention since the initial launch, I had no idea. Here's the business model: > Besides in-game purchases, partnerships with retail chains like Starbucks, McDonald's, Sprint, pay Niantic Labs for "Foot Traffic" on-demand of the retail shops.
  - charlieyu1 3y ago
    Is it Japanese only collaboration?
  - swarnie 3y ago
    The trick was combining a popular franchise with aggressive whale seeking monetisation and having that all backed up by three figure agencies. The app more than did its jo.
    - sushid 3y ago
      You lost me at three figure agencies. Are you saying that the FTC should be somehow involved here? What other agencies are you referring to?
      - 3y ago