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I would lean more towards "just a brand" IMO; would love to hear from grads though on if the actual education itself has prepared them for life in ways few othe

by Zetice 3y ago

I would lean more towards "just a brand" IMO; would love to hear from grads though on if the actual education itself has prepared them for life in ways few other schools could. I imagine it's of some quality, if for no other reason than the brand attracts talent and the money buys everything the talent needs. That said, what even is educational talent? Is that where the incentives are aligned for the institution, to get the best teaching talent?

DropInIn 3y ago
Is everyone just gonna skip over the Networking aspect like it isn't The most valuable part of the whole deal? As the saying goes: it's not What you know, it's Who you know.
- Zetice 3y ago
  This is a big part of it; someone I know didn't even apply to HBS and kind of regrets not trying because they didn't at the time realize the scope of that network. She ended up at Kellogg so still got a strong network, but Harvard is kind of unbeatable.
lordnacho 3y ago
Who would even be able to make such comments? You go to one uni or another. FWIW I don't think the content changes much between institutions. Certainly I don't see what an Oxford grad learned that some other engineering student at say Imperial or MIT didn't do.
- pca006132 3y ago
  I studied in a university in Hong Kong. What I found interesting is that our universities are considered pretty good (decent ranking), but in reality we lack a lot of courses that are offered by other universities (e.g. theoretical computer science), what we mostly have are courses in hot topics such as AI and CV, and a lot of professors can only do research and are terrible in teaching... So yeah, you can have much worse education...
  - lordnacho 3y ago
    Exactly what I ran into at Oxford. The more decorated the prof, the less interested in teaching. In the end the core of a degree is not going to change a whole lot, of course options will be slightly titled towards demand. Everyone who studied engineering did a bunch of math courses and a bunch of physics courses, just like everybody anywhere.
shagmin 3y ago
Could probably find it in Google but I think there was a study that show Harvard (and some other similar universities) do offer an advantage in that it's the only way many people from disadvantaged backgrounds can mingle with people with connections, opportunities, etc.,. There's no educational advantage necessarily, but the same students going to a state school for example aren't going to be exposed to the same level of access to upwards mobility. People that are born into families with that access however, experience no additional advantage since they were already essentially born with it.

by Zetice 3y ago

DropInIn 3y ago

Is everyone just gonna skip over the Networking aspect like it isn't The most valuable part of the whole deal? As the saying goes: it's not What you know, it's Who you know.

Zetice 3y ago
This is a big part of it; someone I know didn't even apply to HBS and kind of regrets not trying because they didn't at the time realize the scope of that network. She ended up at Kellogg so still got a strong network, but Harvard is kind of unbeatable.

lordnacho 3y ago

Who would even be able to make such comments? You go to one uni or another. FWIW I don't think the content changes much between institutions. Certainly I don't see what an Oxford grad learned that some other engineering student at say Imperial or MIT didn't do.

pca006132 3y ago
I studied in a university in Hong Kong. What I found interesting is that our universities are considered pretty good (decent ranking), but in reality we lack a lot of courses that are offered by other universities (e.g. theoretical computer science), what we mostly have are courses in hot topics such as AI and CV, and a lot of professors can only do research and are terrible in teaching... So yeah, you can have much worse education...
- lordnacho 3y ago
  Exactly what I ran into at Oxford. The more decorated the prof, the less interested in teaching. In the end the core of a degree is not going to change a whole lot, of course options will be slightly titled towards demand. Everyone who studied engineering did a bunch of math courses and a bunch of physics courses, just like everybody anywhere.

shagmin 3y ago

Could probably find it in Google but I think there was a study that show Harvard (and some other similar universities) do offer an advantage in that it's the only way many people from disadvantaged backgrounds can mingle with people with connections, opportunities, etc.,. There's no educational advantage necessarily, but the same students going to a state school for example aren't going to be exposed to the same level of access to upwards mobility. People that are born into families with that access however, experience no additional advantage since they were already essentially born with it.