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All Twitter content seems to be behind a login wall today
- tjpnz 3y agoSo a return to the status quo then?
- autophagian 3y agoI don't remember the ability to view any individual tweet being locked behind a login screen before - timeline scrolling yes, but not this. This is a new approach.
- rsynnott 3y agoBaffling decision. The fact that tweets were, by default, essentially public and easily linkable was a big differentiator between Twitter and other social networks (particularly Facebook) and made them very attractive for things like news sites to link, vs, say, Facebook posts.
- jonnycomputer 3y agoGood. Maybe they'll start blogging instead.
- xnx 3y agoInteresting opportunity for TikTok (which [currently] allows non-logged-in access) to start allowing text posts.
- justnotworthit 3y agofor the desperate: https://syndication.twitter.com/srv/timeline-profile/screen-name/{username} https://syndication.twitter.com/srv/timeline-profile/screen-... from https://einaregilsson.com/redirector/ https://einaregilsson.com/redirector/ and https://gist.githubusercontent.com/robotblake/a0f020381c1a919cf9720f9ae09b3093/raw/7ca5e003798d2d0e641a3e2fd20039fae03a4ffe/redirector-twitter-embed-rules.json https://gist.githubusercontent.com/robotblake/a0f020381c1a91...
- pupkin 3y agoNo longer works
- justnotworthit 3y agoPeople are trying to find a method to here: https://github.com/zedeus/nitter/issues/919 https://github.com/zedeus/nitter/issues/919 (check out https://rsshub.app/twitter/user/elonmusk https://rsshub.app/twitter/user/elonmusk) For the very desperate, this is still "working" for some reason: https://tweettunnel.com/ggreenwald https://tweettunnel.com/ggreenwald At the end of each snippet is a t.co link with a /{tweet id} at the end. You'll have to click on it and copy the status/tweet id from the url after the "%2Fstatus%" part. Paste that number into an embed link: https://platform.twitter.com/embed/Tweet.html?id=1676315342451212290 https://platform.twitter.com/embed/Tweet.html?id=16763153424...
- huabin 3y ago[dead]
- pipo234 3y agoSilence, at last.
- petemir 3y agoI came here to post the same. It seems Musk has finally pulled the plug...
- senttoschool 3y agoProbably a way to sell data to AI labs. These "free" social networks have finally found another way to make money from their users besides ads.
- gizzlon 3y agoHmm, I wonder if this is just an experiment, a bug, or something permanent. Posting twitter links to places like HN will be a no-no, since a good portion of the people can't view the content. Will that stop people from using Twitter to inform?
- tjpnz 3y agoTweets will still be posted but there'll be an accompanying archive link as with paywalled articles.
- midasz 3y agoPosting Twitter links anywhere should've been a no-no long time ago with the login popups. Before nitter I just skipped them entirely.
- jwr 3y agoUnfortunately, many things posted to HN are not on the Internet. Paywalled links, links to articles where the publisher does the idiotic IP-based regionalization and denies access to those not in his "region", etc. I believe HN should make a rule that only links to things on the Internet are allowed. If it's not readable by anyone with an IP address, it shouldn't be on HN.
- oneeyedpigeon 3y agoAgreed; clicking on a paywall link is such an unedifying experience. Direct links to paywalled content should almost always be avoided, not just on HN!
- spiffytech 3y ago> Hmm, I wonder if this is just an experiment, a bug, or something permanent. Twitter appointed a new CEO earlier this month. I wouldn't be surprised if this is the new policy from the new leader. Ars Technica ran a story yesterday detailing her plans, which include full-screen video ads with sound. https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/06/linda-yaccarinos-vision-for-twitter-2-0-emerges/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/06/linda-yaccarinos...
- cutemoron 3y ago[flagged]
- TomK32 3y agoLogin wall for me. I'll give it a day and then delete the dozen or so remaining twitter accounts I had bookmarked and checked in occasionally. I did delete my account a few months before Elon took over, guess we are watching its final days.
- cutemoron 3y agoIt isn’t final until people actually leave there. As long as there’re users. Otherwise not gonna happen :(
- DennisAleynikov 3y agoyeah still waiting on this so called twitter sudden death as people keep hyping up. "this isn't an airport you don't need to announce your departure" - aristotle probably
- stOneskull 3y agotwitter's a bit of fun. i'm loving this wrestling match hype between zuck and musk.
- DennisAleynikov 3y agoand watching wagnerPMC storm moscow was no snoozefest
- tourmalinetaco 3y agoUn/fortunately, they didn’t storm Moscow. It was rather interesting to see them advance, however. Though whether this was a distraction to hide something else (say, “banishing” a PMC closer to the border) or a genuine coup has yet to be seen.
- ern 3y agoI stopped using Twitter months ago. Stopped Tweeting and only visit the site if I need to follow a link. I never announced it. There was a trend of high profile Tweeters announcing their departure, and some may well have relapsed (I don't keep track) but it would be interesting to see how many people just stopped bothering with the site and all its drama.
- controversial97 3y agoNitter is still working, although searching for users seems to have stopped working you can still use the tweet search tab or manually type a twitter username on the end of the URL. List of nitter instances: https://github.com/xnaas/nitter-instances https://github.com/xnaas/nitter-instances They unpredictably say "This nitter instance has been rate limited", you can try a few from the above list to find one that is getting less traffic.
- controversial97 3y agoUpdate: nitter has stopped working
- sc90 3y agoDoes Nitter have the trending tab? I couldn't find any but found this elsewhere. https://twitter-trends.iamrohit.in/ https://twitter-trends.iamrohit.in/
- zapdrive 3y agoBad move on Elon's part. Many people deleted their accounts when he took over, but some portion of them are still "addicted" to twitter and browse it anonymously. Thus still generating views and revenue for the company. Once the login wall comes up, most of them are leaving for good, as their egos will not allow them to create another account.
- DennisAleynikov 3y agoI hope you realize the login wall was something that came up before musk aquired twitter. one of the first things he did was remove it.
- oneeyedpigeon 3y agoThat's little consolation now that he's, apparently, put it back (possibly 'worse' than before).
- zapdrive 3y agoI am not a prolific twitter user. I am one of the "anonymous lurkers" I mentioned in my original comment. But your observation makes sense, as I only started visiting Twitter after Elon's takeover. The removal of the login wall must have been the reason.
- thexumaker 3y agoYep it used to be you could view individual tweets but nothing else. Elon came in removed it and made everything free to view. A couple months ago I noticed they went back to the old system. And now you can't even view individual tweets. Embedded tweets still work I guess
- oneeyedpigeon 3y agoI think there must have been some kind of nuance beyond that, at some point. The number of people claiming that they couldn't view twitter links — and I'm sure this started pre-Elon — suggests to me that, like someone else has mentioned, there might have been different behaviour for 'anonymous' vs. 'not-logged-in' viewers.
- throwa_acnt_223 3y agoYou can use this opensource service to at least read other people's tweets: https://nitter.net/ https://nitter.net/ https://nitter.net/about https://nitter.net/about See an example: https://nitter.net/elonmusk https://nitter.net/elonmusk
- justnotworthit 3y agohttps://github.com/zedeus/nitter/issues/919 https://github.com/zedeus/nitter/issues/919
- DennisAleynikov 3y agogod bless nitter.net
- hunta2097 3y agoNitter is also broken right now. I'm sure they'll work around it.
- 3cats-in-a-coat 3y agoThere's no trivial way to work around it. Without API and without web access, where are you going to read the tweets from? The only option left is unofficial API stubs, which essentially scrape the web requests, but those also will require a login, so the high activity will be easy to spot and block by Twitter. Unless they have a whole network of accounts. That'd work but it's work to do.
- MallocVoidstar 3y agoThere's a nitter fork (in the sense of 'PRs not merged yet') that uses the admin's burner accounts to retrieve tweets, and it still works. But I think it hits rate limits fairly often. edit: Well, worked. Seems down right now, possibly because it was the only instance that still worked.
- MereInterest 3y agoLooks like it occurs in private windows as well. In the past, twitter set cookies to distinguish between visitors who never had an account, and visitors who have an account but are logged out. Publicly visible posts were displayed to no-account visitors, but blocked from logged-out visitors.
- reneberlin 3y agoAnd finally, now please break the login-system, too and there will be silence.
- chayesfss 3y ago[dead]
- ndr42 3y agoI see it as a chance to wean off of twitter.
- ecks4ndr0s 3y agoYep.
- Timber-6539 3y agoThis is a hard stretch. That login wall is easily dismissible. Haven't come across any tweet, even content that could be considered "premium" like Tucker's long form video commentaries, that is not available behind the login wall. EDIT: I was wrong. This was the behavior not so long ago, seems like any link now redirects to homepage.
- xg15 3y agoHow do you dismiss it? I just get redirected to /home from everything. Even if I click the "X", I just end up on the frontpage instead of the page I wanted to see. (It's different from the "please login" in-page popup that came up before occasionally. That one indeed was easily dismissable)
- gizzlon 3y agonot for me, it redirects to another page entirely
- midasuni 3y agoNot on my phone, click a link to something somebody shares, no way to get away from logging in.
- thexumaker 3y agoDidn't George Hotz do an "internship" at twitter to remove the login wall? Rip twitter even more.
- tethys 3y agoI think he was supposed to fix search.
- ciroduran 3y agoThis effectively breaks 15 years of links to tweets posted all over the Internet. Just another reason to keep the web open. This takes Twitter to the same level as Facebook, a website that only lives of its internal posts, where no young people open accounts, and where eventually the only ones who post are the ones who opened an account in its time.
- petemir 3y agoIt's already having some effects on my googling, just like the reddit blackout.
- senttoschool 3y agoI wonder if recent Reddit/Twitter events might have finally given blockchain a real problem to solve. The problem is centralized entities can take away access to data you generated at anytime. They can also ban you for whatever reason they want. So if your livelihood depends on these services, it can cause a huge disruption. If Reddit/Twitter's data is stored on a blockchain, then anyone can build a client to access that data and Twitter would essentially have much less power. The problem I see is that blockchains are too slow, and too expensive for mass products like Reddit and Twitter. Heck, I'm sure it's already a huge challenge for centralized databases to have as much data as Twitter/Reddit - let alone a decentralized one. Maybe at some point, we'll have a quantum computer breakthrough and blockchains performance is solved for use cases like this.
- progval 3y agoPeople can archive data from Reddit/Twitter, and Bitcoin/Ethereum... nodes can prune old blocks and stop serving them.
- 3cats-in-a-coat 3y agoWhen people say "blockchains are a solution in search of a problem" they aren't kidding huh? We already have decentralized Twitter, it's called Mastodon (we have more of those as well).
- justcool393 3y ago
- bubblethink 3y agoLogin walls, paywalls, etc., are fine, I just wish google would not index these sites. There has to be a cost for every move. This whole have_and_eat(cake) needs to stop.
- chayesfss 3y ago[dead]
- thefz 3y ago... And nothing of value was lost.
- andyjohnson0 3y agoI suspect that this is going to deter news sites from using tweets in articles. Imo this is probably a good thing, but what twitter thinks it well get out of this isn't clear to me.
- tomgp 3y agoI've recently noticed a few places screen-grabbing tweets rather than embedding them. Presumably for this reason.
- hiddendoom45 3y agoOddly enough tweets that are age/content restricted do not get the login wall, so while you cannot see the age-restricted tweet, you can still see the replies.
- 28304283409234 3y agoFun. I tried to create an account again but cannot get passed the captchas. What a joke twitter has become.
- zrfland 3y agoShould it be legal for politicians and institutions to post in a walled garden? Of course this could be Musk trolling us for 24 hours to increase engagement and then revert the decision, leading to even more engagement.
- rsynnott 3y agoI can't see why it wouldn't be _legal_, but it would certainly seem less _desirable_ for the politicians concerned.
- matricaria 3y agoNot everything has to be illegal just because you’re annoyed by it. Maybe contact the politicians you’re interested in and make them aware of the problem. Get them to swap to Mastodon or even better, a blog/website.
- pessimizer 3y ago> Not everything has to be illegal just because you’re annoyed by it. No, some things should be illegal because they're public officials using semi-private communications channels for public communications in the course of their work, that the public won't have access to without agreeing to a TOS with that private company.
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- robotblake 3y agoI still have a few accounts I glance at from time to time. Hockey, Game Devs, Artists, etc. who haven't migrated away despite everything, so this is kinda obnoxious. I created some Redirector (https://einaregilsson.com/redirector/ https://einaregilsson.com/redirector/) rules to redirect Tweet and Twitter Profile URLs to their HTML embed equivalents. Should be able to just import the rules and it seems to work alright with some caveats. * I have no idea if this will continue to function. * I've only tested some random links from my Discord and Slack groups. * Profile links only show the most recent 20 tweets. * Tweets will show quote-tweets, but no replies (though maybe that's a good thing). * Obviously won't work for mobile. https://gist.github.com/robotblake/a0f020381c1a919cf9720f9ae09b3093 https://gist.github.com/robotblake/a0f020381c1a919cf9720f9ae...
- sys_64738 3y agoI have no problem with this as I don't use the twitter.
- Euphorbium 3y agoReddit is essentially the same. Default ordering of comments is “best”. That means that many comments are not displayed at all. You need to log in to be able to change that. I only noticed that after deleting my account.
- jacobolus 3y agoFor now you can still use old.reddit.com.
- xnx 3y agoCan we bring back blogs now?
- ciroduran 3y agoThey've always been there! But they're not the new thing as they were more than a decade ago :)
- saos 3y agoI thought it was just me. Terrible decision
- Balgair 3y agoWell, Donny's long awaited come-back to twitter may be longer delayed then. I can't see this decision standing. The traffic drop is going to be immense. Advertisers, already wary, will not like it yet again. Plus, a long weekend in the US is starting. Lots of leisure time to figure out alternatives.
- tourmalinetaco 3y agoHasn’t Trump completely abandoned Twitter, and very much prefers his de-federated Mastodon instance? I’d say you can’t put an indefinite delay on for any longer than, well, indefinite. That aside, you’re absolutely right. It’ll be interesting to see why Elon would hide away his money sink, especially when they made such a big hoopla about removing this very thing from the beginning.
- justcool393 3y ago> Hasn’t Trump completely abandoned Twitter, and very much prefers his de-federated Mastodon instance? yeah, he's been pretty steadfast in rejecting Twitter. maybe if truth dies or something, but...
- ecks4ndr0s 3y agoSame here.