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I am experiencing the curse of Apple’s ecosystem. Because all my photos and videos are on iCloud, it’s practically impossible for me to switch to android at thi

I am experiencing the curse of Apple’s ecosystem. Because all my photos and videos are on iCloud, it’s practically impossible for me to switch to android at this point. On top of that, I really like the hands off feature (which allows me to copy something on my iPhone and paste it on my Mac) and the fact that I can use my iPhone’s camera as a second WebCam for my MacBook. there used to be a time when choosing a phone depended on its intrinsic value. But nowadays, the value you get from your phone depends on external factors, such as the cloud provider, the synergy between the phone and the rest of your computer setup, and the overall support you get from the company. I think this is the part where all android manufacturers get wrong: they focus so much on the intrinsic value of the phone without working on its extrinsic value within an ecosystem.

ksec 3y ago
I think the Photos and Videos are the easy part. Whatsapp / iMessages and iCloud Password are even worst.
- klausa 3y ago
  Passwords in iCloud Keychain have a very easy plaintext export option, and there's no social graph component to it, so I don't really understand how that's a lock-in vector.
ClassyJacket 3y ago
Transferring the photos is easy and automated: https://support.google.com/photos/answer/10502587?hl=en https://support.google.com/photos/answer/10502587?hl=en There are also apps that allow you to use Android phones as a webcam, but no it won't be as seamless as Continuity Camera.
jraph 3y ago
> I really like the hands off feature (which allows me to copy something on my iPhone and paste it on my Mac Android and mobile linux phones can do this with KDE Connect with Linux computers. I think you can do this between two computers too. Maybe KDE connect also exists on Mac?
wink 3y ago
As someone who's not really into any ecosystem I'm currently thinking about switching from 14 years of Android to an iPhone and I'm absolutely not worried for all the important things, my only concern is basically losing access to a handful of apps or games I like. Maybe I'm an outlier, but "ecosystem integration" for me means that my phone displays a google calendar and I have access to a non-gmail IMAP account. Phone is never paired with a computer and as far as I remember I could access photos in iCloud via a browser without a mac...

ksec 3y ago

I think the Photos and Videos are the easy part. Whatsapp / iMessages and iCloud Password are even worst.

klausa 3y ago
Passwords in iCloud Keychain have a very easy plaintext export option, and there's no social graph component to it, so I don't really understand how that's a lock-in vector.

ClassyJacket 3y ago

Transferring the photos is easy and automated: https://support.google.com/photos/answer/10502587?hl=en https://support.google.com/photos/answer/10502587?hl=en There are also apps that allow you to use Android phones as a webcam, but no it won't be as seamless as Continuity Camera.

jraph 3y ago

> I really like the hands off feature (which allows me to copy something on my iPhone and paste it on my Mac Android and mobile linux phones can do this with KDE Connect with Linux computers. I think you can do this between two computers too. Maybe KDE connect also exists on Mac?

wink 3y ago

As someone who's not really into any ecosystem I'm currently thinking about switching from 14 years of Android to an iPhone and I'm absolutely not worried for all the important things, my only concern is basically losing access to a handful of apps or games I like. Maybe I'm an outlier, but "ecosystem integration" for me means that my phone displays a google calendar and I have access to a non-gmail IMAP account. Phone is never paired with a computer and as far as I remember I could access photos in iCloud via a browser without a mac...