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Tricking people's bodies into consuming garbage is a feature? For whom?

by ramblenode 3y ago

nonethewiser 3y ago
Harmless garbage, mind you
- ericd 3y ago
  Nitrate laden meat consumption is heavily correlated with colon cancer, no?
  - hedora 3y ago
    Yes. Also, “sodium nitrate free” and “uncured” meat typically contains celery salt, which is chemically identical to sodium nitrate, except that the maximum safety levels don’t apply, so sometimes it has more nitrate in it than would otherwise be legal. The misleading “uncured” and “sodium nitrate free” language on labels is mandated by labeling standards in the US, so keep that in mind when directing your rage.
scubbo 3y ago
For people, if the "garbage" still has positive nutritional value that would otherwise be wasted due to taste.
- ramblenode 3y ago
  What is an example of the good garbage that would otherwise be wasted? It seems like nutrient deficient junk food is the main beneficiary of these appetizing agents. Globally, we produce a huge surplus of calories but a deficit of micronutrients, fruits, and vegetables. The appetizing agents are mostly convincing people to eat more of the former, beyond what they need.
  - akiselev 3y ago
    > What is an example of the good garbage that would otherwise be wasted? It seems like nutrient deficient junk food is the main beneficiary of these appetizing agents. Most of a cow, honestly. From a 1,300 lbs steer you'll get something like 600-650 pounds of usable meat (maybe a little more, depending on the breed). About a third of that resulting meat will be ground meat that'll best be used in burgers, sausages, hotdogs, and stuff like vienna sausages - which I would consider junk food. The rest of the carcass will be rendered into tallow, boiled down to produce gelatin for candy and jellies or bone broth for other dishes, and otherwise processed for human or animal consumption. It's not as extreme as the junk food you're thinking of but ever since industrialization the amount of effort put into making food from slaughterhouse waste is incredible.
    - rootusrootus 3y ago
      > burgers, sausages, hotdogs, and stuff like vienna sausages - which I would consider junk food Heretic!

Tricking people's bodies into consuming garbage is a feature? For whom?

nonethewiser 3y ago

Harmless garbage, mind you

ericd 3y ago
Nitrate laden meat consumption is heavily correlated with colon cancer, no?
- hedora 3y ago
  Yes. Also, “sodium nitrate free” and “uncured” meat typically contains celery salt, which is chemically identical to sodium nitrate, except that the maximum safety levels don’t apply, so sometimes it has more nitrate in it than would otherwise be legal. The misleading “uncured” and “sodium nitrate free” language on labels is mandated by labeling standards in the US, so keep that in mind when directing your rage.

scubbo 3y ago

For people, if the "garbage" still has positive nutritional value that would otherwise be wasted due to taste.

ramblenode 3y ago
What is an example of the good garbage that would otherwise be wasted? It seems like nutrient deficient junk food is the main beneficiary of these appetizing agents. Globally, we produce a huge surplus of calories but a deficit of micronutrients, fruits, and vegetables. The appetizing agents are mostly convincing people to eat more of the former, beyond what they need.
- akiselev 3y ago
  > What is an example of the good garbage that would otherwise be wasted? It seems like nutrient deficient junk food is the main beneficiary of these appetizing agents. Most of a cow, honestly. From a 1,300 lbs steer you'll get something like 600-650 pounds of usable meat (maybe a little more, depending on the breed). About a third of that resulting meat will be ground meat that'll best be used in burgers, sausages, hotdogs, and stuff like vienna sausages - which I would consider junk food. The rest of the carcass will be rendered into tallow, boiled down to produce gelatin for candy and jellies or bone broth for other dishes, and otherwise processed for human or animal consumption. It's not as extreme as the junk food you're thinking of but ever since industrialization the amount of effort put into making food from slaughterhouse waste is incredible.
  - rootusrootus 3y ago
    > burgers, sausages, hotdogs, and stuff like vienna sausages - which I would consider junk food Heretic!