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How would you feel on the other side of this? Given how recently discrimination was still legal, is it really great that you can shrug and say "well, tough tits

by vore 3y ago

How would you feel on the other side of this? Given how recently discrimination was still legal, is it really great that you can shrug and say "well, tough tits I guess"?

nwienert 3y ago
I wasn’t admitted into better colleges while minority friends with worse grades and general resumes were. It upsets me that I was discriminated against. Should I pursue some reparations? How do you factor this in?
- ludditetech 3y ago
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  - dang 3y ago
    You can't attack others this aggressively on HN, regardless of how wrong they are or you feel they are. Your comments in this thread were so egregious that I briefly banned your account - but your earlier contributions to HN have been fine, so I don't want to do that. If you could please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and comment in the intended spirit in the future, though, that would be good.
  - yakshaving_jgt 3y ago
    My great grandfather was enslaved and then murdered as part of systematic oppression of millions of people. Am I entitled to reparations?
  - TexanFeller 3y ago
    > imagine if my mom was raped repeatedly, my dad whipped and hung from a bough Mom and dad is one thing, but no one alive today had that happen to their parents, so this is just emotional manipulation. For people alive today it was more like great great great grandparents. There are awful things that were done to blacks at scale in living memory, but nothing like what you're talking about.
- yawpitch 3y ago
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  - Alupis 3y ago
    Discrimination against Japanese, Chinese, Irish, German, Mexican, Native American and more are not "imaginary harms". Are we in favor of reparations for every group? Or is it just this one? Reparation talk is a way to buy votes - nothing more. It's a total non-starter if you dig into how you'd go about it... We can't pretend like handing people a pile of cash will suddenly solve all the issues the community endures today.
    - yawpitch 3y ago
      > Discrimination against Japanese, Chinese, Irish, German, Mexican, Native American and more are not "imaginary harms". Never implied they were. I implied that the harm felt by one’s “minority friends” being helped is a figment of one’s imagination… you then replied with a list of other minorities who will also be harmed by this absurdly idiotic ruling. > Are we in favor of reparations for every group? Or is it just this one? We can safely start with the victims of chattel slavery — at the very least those who signed up to fight and die for a government that promised 40 acres and a mule and then reneged on that (extremely minimal) token — and then widen the net to those who also can make a legitimate call for reparation. > Reparation talk is a way to buy votes - nothing more. It's a total non-starter if you dig into how you'd go about it... It’s really not… if reparation had been made in a timely fashion it wouldn’t be nearly so difficult now, and even today just the very doable token of 40 literal acres and a morally equivalent mule (with interest, and a sincere apology) to the descendants of those for whom clear records exist would be a welcome token step in the right direction. Truth and reconciliation don’t mean wiping out all harm in a single reparatory act, they mean proactively working to an acknowledge and repair… the abominable corruption that is the Supreme Court just abandoned the proactive part entirely. > We can't pretend like handing people a pile of cash will suddenly solve all the issues the community endures today. Only those who aren’t part of the community can possibly pretend that a pile of cash wouldn’t solve (or at least substantially help) an extremely significant number of those issues.
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- coolguy132435 3y ago
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  - sacrosancty 3y ago
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  - bushbaba 3y ago
    That’s discrimination. Being white had an “unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people, especially on the grounds of ethnicity”
  - tanseydavid 3y ago
    Is "white people" a societal or economic class? This seems incorrect to me.
- shadowgovt 3y ago
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justinclift 3y ago
Maybe shrug and say "Well, I hope that's over now..."

by vore 3y ago

How would you feel on the other side of this? Given how recently discrimination was still legal, is it really great that you can shrug and say "well, tough tits I guess"?

nwienert 3y ago

I wasn’t admitted into better colleges while minority friends with worse grades and general resumes were. It upsets me that I was discriminated against. Should I pursue some reparations? How do you factor this in?

ludditetech 3y ago
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- dang 3y ago
  You can't attack others this aggressively on HN, regardless of how wrong they are or you feel they are. Your comments in this thread were so egregious that I briefly banned your account - but your earlier contributions to HN have been fine, so I don't want to do that. If you could please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and comment in the intended spirit in the future, though, that would be good.
- yakshaving_jgt 3y ago
  My great grandfather was enslaved and then murdered as part of systematic oppression of millions of people. Am I entitled to reparations?
- TexanFeller 3y ago
  > imagine if my mom was raped repeatedly, my dad whipped and hung from a bough Mom and dad is one thing, but no one alive today had that happen to their parents, so this is just emotional manipulation. For people alive today it was more like great great great grandparents. There are awful things that were done to blacks at scale in living memory, but nothing like what you're talking about.
yawpitch 3y ago
[flagged]
- Alupis 3y ago
  Discrimination against Japanese, Chinese, Irish, German, Mexican, Native American and more are not "imaginary harms". Are we in favor of reparations for every group? Or is it just this one? Reparation talk is a way to buy votes - nothing more. It's a total non-starter if you dig into how you'd go about it... We can't pretend like handing people a pile of cash will suddenly solve all the issues the community endures today.
  - yawpitch 3y ago
    > Discrimination against Japanese, Chinese, Irish, German, Mexican, Native American and more are not "imaginary harms". Never implied they were. I implied that the harm felt by one’s “minority friends” being helped is a figment of one’s imagination… you then replied with a list of other minorities who will also be harmed by this absurdly idiotic ruling. > Are we in favor of reparations for every group? Or is it just this one? We can safely start with the victims of chattel slavery — at the very least those who signed up to fight and die for a government that promised 40 acres and a mule and then reneged on that (extremely minimal) token — and then widen the net to those who also can make a legitimate call for reparation. > Reparation talk is a way to buy votes - nothing more. It's a total non-starter if you dig into how you'd go about it... It’s really not… if reparation had been made in a timely fashion it wouldn’t be nearly so difficult now, and even today just the very doable token of 40 literal acres and a morally equivalent mule (with interest, and a sincere apology) to the descendants of those for whom clear records exist would be a welcome token step in the right direction. Truth and reconciliation don’t mean wiping out all harm in a single reparatory act, they mean proactively working to an acknowledge and repair… the abominable corruption that is the Supreme Court just abandoned the proactive part entirely. > We can't pretend like handing people a pile of cash will suddenly solve all the issues the community endures today. Only those who aren’t part of the community can possibly pretend that a pile of cash wouldn’t solve (or at least substantially help) an extremely significant number of those issues.
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coolguy132435 3y ago
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- sacrosancty 3y ago
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- bushbaba 3y ago
  That’s discrimination. Being white had an “unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people, especially on the grounds of ethnicity”
- tanseydavid 3y ago
  Is "white people" a societal or economic class? This seems incorrect to me.
shadowgovt 3y ago
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justinclift 3y ago

Maybe shrug and say "Well, I hope that's over now..."