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To clarify, this doesn't mean aspartame in food is harmful, it means that in certain circumstances it's possible for the chemical to cause cancer. For example,
by LarsAlereon 3y ago
To clarify, this doesn't mean aspartame in food is harmful, it means that in certain circumstances it's possible for the chemical to cause cancer. For example, workers exposed to extremely high levels during manufacturing, or breakdown products formed during improper storage.
- arbitrage 3y ago[flagged]
- SketchySeaBeast 3y agoAs is often noted, being exposed to too much or improperly stored (heated, cooled, contaminated) water can also be hazardous to your health and that shit's in everything.
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- cogman10 3y agoIt should. There are plenty of chemicals that you regularly consume which, in high dosages, are fatal but are required at low dosages. Too much calcium will causes osteopetrosis (too little does as well). Too much vitamin K causes liver damage Too much vitamin B1 causes hypertension Plenty of stuff is dangerous at high levels and safe at low levels. Our kidneys and liver exist to filter and eliminate excess.
- j45 3y agoToo little or too much of many foods will be bad Where Aspartame is unhealthy in soda could use more detailed light shed on it. There may be some issue with how it’s used for food and soda in second and third world countries compared to First world.
- nomel 3y ago> Where Aspartame is unhealthy in soda could use more detailed light shed on it. I imagine it's complex, with indirect affects, with its ability to modulate the gut: https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/artificial-sweeteners-alter-gut-bacteria-in-humans-70395 https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/artificial-sweete...
- j45 3y agoInteresting, thanks. I have also heard carbonated beverages during eating may affect stomach acid. Need to find some research clarifying it one way or the other.
- berniedurfee 3y agoPlug for ChubbyEmu on YouTube for more examples!
- cogman10 3y agoPretty fun watch. Thanks for sharing.
- kergonath 3y agoSilica can cause cancer, in the form of asbestos fibres or silica dust. Yet, it’s safe to drink from a glass, have windows at home, and walk on sand. A lot of factors matter besides chemical composition.
- fluidcruft 3y agoAre you suggesting that aspartame in food has a different physical form that prevents it from entering the body?
- xeromal 3y agoThat's not the only option there. It also could be the amount of exposure.
- dogma1138 3y agoIt’s not only if it enters the body but also how, for example inhaling aspartame can be very different to ingesting it.
- kergonath 3y agoFor example. I cannot provide any insight because I don’t with in that field, but it would not be necessarily surprising that e.g. inhaled powders could have different effects than ingested compounds diluted in something else. Quantity would matter a lot as well.
- nonethewiser 3y agoIts OK to drink kool aide but not snort it.
- graypegg 3y agoIt’s the dose that makes the poison maybe?
- maxk42 3y agoSand is not a different physical form than that which causes cancer. (See: toxic silicosis) Often it's dosage that leads to concern. A typical walk on the beach will not result in cancer from sand exposure.
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- HelixEndeavor 3y agoWater isn't dangerous but if you were dropped into the middle of the ocean you would probably drown. Does that mean you must swear off water because it's proven to be dangerous since people drown in it?
- quickthrower2 3y agoNot a fair analogy since in one case the water is acting chemically and in the other it is physically obstructing. Potatoes are good for you but if someone shot one out of a cannon at your face it might not be.
- netbioserror 3y agoWater in the stomach isn't harmful, but water in the lungs absolutely is. If the human digestive system can trivially break down the amounts of aspartame found in a diet coke, it's fairly pointless for just about anyone to entertain the scenario of inhaling a bucket of pure aspartame crystals.
- Nathanba 3y agoYou make a perfectly valid point, if something is used in food production that is only safe in trace quantities then a simple mistake on the assembly line could easily lead to larger quantities ending up in your food and suddenly you have cancer. I prefer having food that doesn't have any in itself cancer causing ingredients.
- astrange 3y agoI don't think it's possible to do that or the food would obviously not be the product anymore. It's like saying you bought a red car but then found out it was secretly blue due to a production mistake.
- penneallagricia 3y agoWhat about the mass of people who in order to drink liters of soda every day ingest large amounts of aspartame? Is it about "circumstances" or concentration?
- j45 3y agoIs litres of soda the bar for Aspartame to be bad for someone? What about a few cans a week?
- wahnfrieden 3y agotheyre just saying the stakes are high because there is both broad and regularly high consumption
- Spivak 3y agoYes but a can of coke is ~200mg of aspertame. You would have to drink conservatively 30 cans a day to even get close to known dangerous levels.
- hedora 3y agoIf you’re worried about cancer, then maybe it takes that much. If you’re worried about it causing weight gain and/or metabolic syndrome, one serving a day is more than enough to be dangerous.
- saiya-jin 3y agoIt literally doesn't matter if its causing cancer or not, that's outright a very bad decision to do so, you will 100% fuck up your health long term. It doesn't matter what type or brand of given soda, if it has calories its bad for you. What else do you need to not do so? Nobody apart from maybe sales folks ever claimed these things are safe to drink in such amounts regularly. Just like nobody ever claimed that consuming say 100g of pure salt every day would be OK, yet you can buy endless amounts of 1kg bags if you want. Do folks really need some government agency to come to them personally to tell them how to live their lives, babysit every single decision they make, steer them away from their addictions on sugar etc? That's not how game of life works.
- cheekibreeki2 3y agoOr soldiers stationed anywhere hot.
- pleb_nz 3y agoCan you find aspartame naturally in the environment in non processed and manufactured foods? E.g steak, fruit, milk whatever? If yes, then I'm a little more lenient on your answer. If not, personally I would rather not see artificial man made ingredients in foods I consume. I did a quick Kagi search and it looks like it's completely synthetic?