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We already have some of the most progressive euthanasia programs in the world. No need to get more creative than that.

unsupp0rted 3y ago
To be fair, those euthanasia programs are only used when someone is either terminally ill or is a healthy-ish 31-year-old who can’t afford housing. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/assisted-suicide-canada-toronto-gofundme-b2091802.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/assisted-s...
- goatsi 3y ago
  The person in the article applied because of health problems. >Denise said she hasn’t cancelled her MAID application because she still suffers from painful chronic health problems that haven’t been properly handled.
  - unsupp0rted 3y ago
    She's not going around doing cartwheels, but in a civilized country she wouldn't be applying for medically assisted dying. Her health problems are, at least arguably, manageable in fairly straightforward ways via a rational medical system. She'll never have healthy-millionaire quality of life, but this isn't what medically-assisted dying is meant for.
    - goatsi 3y ago
      In this case what she recognized as the treatment is managed by something other than the medical system. I would assume this is the same in other places, unless doctors in Europe can write prescriptions for apartments.
- kneebonian 3y ago
  Don't forget the veterans who've asked for ramps. "Canada Veteran Affair's department: Finishing what the enemy started!"
- TurkishPoptart 3y ago
  Holy shit. Financial reasons should not be a factor in choosing to end one's life. WTF Canada?
  - sampo 3y ago
    "Canada prepares to expand its euthanasia law to include those with mental illness" https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64004329 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64004329
  - brewdad 3y ago
    At least in Canada they won't be milking the estate for the cost of the euthanasia.
jrace 3y ago
Care for a person dying of Al's and tell me how progressive our Euthanasia program is. This has nothing to do with the article.
- ben_w 3y ago
  > dying of Al's Given the current zeitgeist, I feel there's only a 70% chance that's an autocorrupt of Alzheimer's. Or did, until I saw the alternative font in the comment box and realised that's a lowercase L not a capital i. My mum died of that. Technically liver or kidney failure from dehydration, but that in turn was from refusing food in the care home and not having the awareness to get liquids separately. I think it was worse for us than it was for her, overall, though there were a few occasions where her self-awareness of the nature of her condition caused her unhappiness.
  - teolandon 3y ago
    More likely that it's a autocorrupt of ALS.
    - jrace 3y ago
      Indeed it was. Happy we are making progress with that and other degenerative diseases. I just wish we all had the opportunity to choose how our life ends, not just for our own suffering but also for those that suffer for us.
- amrocha 3y ago
  It's the conspiracy theory du jour now that these people can't complain about vaccines anymore, don't bother engaging with it
  - hezralig 3y ago
    There is a far gap between the conservatives fixated on vaccines and the people pointing out that they have a physical handicap and otherwise want to live but are not being given disability benefits to pay for rent and food and feel forced into signing up to be euthanized.
ROTMetro 3y ago
But do you have Carousel?

To be fair, those euthanasia programs are only used when someone is either terminally ill or is a healthy-ish 31-year-old who can’t afford housing. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/assisted-suicide-canada-toronto-gofundme-b2091802.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/assisted-s...

goatsi 3y ago
The person in the article applied because of health problems. >Denise said she hasn’t cancelled her MAID application because she still suffers from painful chronic health problems that haven’t been properly handled.
- unsupp0rted 3y ago
  She's not going around doing cartwheels, but in a civilized country she wouldn't be applying for medically assisted dying. Her health problems are, at least arguably, manageable in fairly straightforward ways via a rational medical system. She'll never have healthy-millionaire quality of life, but this isn't what medically-assisted dying is meant for.
  - goatsi 3y ago
    In this case what she recognized as the treatment is managed by something other than the medical system. I would assume this is the same in other places, unless doctors in Europe can write prescriptions for apartments.
kneebonian 3y ago
Don't forget the veterans who've asked for ramps. "Canada Veteran Affair's department: Finishing what the enemy started!"
TurkishPoptart 3y ago
Holy shit. Financial reasons should not be a factor in choosing to end one's life. WTF Canada?
- sampo 3y ago
  "Canada prepares to expand its euthanasia law to include those with mental illness" https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64004329 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64004329
- brewdad 3y ago
  At least in Canada they won't be milking the estate for the cost of the euthanasia.

jrace 3y ago

Care for a person dying of Al's and tell me how progressive our Euthanasia program is. This has nothing to do with the article.

ben_w 3y ago
> dying of Al's Given the current zeitgeist, I feel there's only a 70% chance that's an autocorrupt of Alzheimer's. Or did, until I saw the alternative font in the comment box and realised that's a lowercase L not a capital i. My mum died of that. Technically liver or kidney failure from dehydration, but that in turn was from refusing food in the care home and not having the awareness to get liquids separately. I think it was worse for us than it was for her, overall, though there were a few occasions where her self-awareness of the nature of her condition caused her unhappiness.
- teolandon 3y ago
  More likely that it's a autocorrupt of ALS.
  - jrace 3y ago
    Indeed it was. Happy we are making progress with that and other degenerative diseases. I just wish we all had the opportunity to choose how our life ends, not just for our own suffering but also for those that suffer for us.
amrocha 3y ago
It's the conspiracy theory du jour now that these people can't complain about vaccines anymore, don't bother engaging with it
- hezralig 3y ago
  There is a far gap between the conservatives fixated on vaccines and the people pointing out that they have a physical handicap and otherwise want to live but are not being given disability benefits to pay for rent and food and feel forced into signing up to be euthanized.

ROTMetro 3y ago

But do you have Carousel?