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there's a ton of consulting companies which are humonguous. Companies like Accenture with 780000 employees, Tata Consultancy with 488000 consultants, CapGemini

there's a ton of consulting companies which are humonguous. Companies like Accenture with 780000 employees, Tata Consultancy with 488000 consultants, CapGemini with 300k-ish... it's one of the largest businesses in the world

anthk 3y ago
These write big turds. If they can't afford to write a simple cross-platform QT5 based software for actual computing (AKA desktops except for niche usage on art with iPad for drawings and some audio production), they are doomed. Period.
marcosdumay 3y ago
Just to reword the sibling; none of those consultants ever created a best-selling piece of software. They are not the people that create the software you install on your machine. That task is usually done by a lone developer at some random place.
- xNeil 3y ago
  I mean, I don't think that's exactly a fair comparison. These companies are focused a lot (and I mean a lot) more on enterprise software than your regular desktop software. I'm talking about Banking Systems, Automation Platforms, Government Software, stuff that has no use outside the corporate world. And they do genuinely do good work in these areas. Sure, they're not pioneers or doing some groundbreaking research, but they do their job and they do their job well (of course there are exceptions - but these aren't 100 billion dollar companies for nothing).
  - mike_hock 3y ago
    > but these aren't 100 billion dollar companies for nothing Producing the best possible software doesn't produce the highest possible revenue. You'd want to produce something that works well enough that it's viable for the customer to keep hiring your consultants, but also makes it necessary to continuously keep hiring them. So that translates to producing the worst possible software that barely works. So no, they're not $100B companies for nothing. They know exactly how to walk that line.
  - marcosdumay 3y ago
    > And they do genuinely do good work in these areas. I have seen genuinely passable. And lots of "good enough until we fix the underlining issue". What I have never seen is offshored developers doing really good work. And I'm convinced their incentive structure will always punish anybody that tries.
  - anthk 3y ago
    I've seen turds as web pages at the Spanish Goverment or even the Healthcare systems. Those are designed to deliberaterly harm the user experience full of judicial jargon so companies in the middle can get lots of profit handling the "legalese" such as filling the taxes.

anthk 3y ago

These write big turds. If they can't afford to write a simple cross-platform QT5 based software for actual computing (AKA desktops except for niche usage on art with iPad for drawings and some audio production), they are doomed. Period.

marcosdumay 3y ago

Just to reword the sibling; none of those consultants ever created a best-selling piece of software. They are not the people that create the software you install on your machine. That task is usually done by a lone developer at some random place.

xNeil 3y ago
I mean, I don't think that's exactly a fair comparison. These companies are focused a lot (and I mean a lot) more on enterprise software than your regular desktop software. I'm talking about Banking Systems, Automation Platforms, Government Software, stuff that has no use outside the corporate world. And they do genuinely do good work in these areas. Sure, they're not pioneers or doing some groundbreaking research, but they do their job and they do their job well (of course there are exceptions - but these aren't 100 billion dollar companies for nothing).
- mike_hock 3y ago
  > but these aren't 100 billion dollar companies for nothing Producing the best possible software doesn't produce the highest possible revenue. You'd want to produce something that works well enough that it's viable for the customer to keep hiring your consultants, but also makes it necessary to continuously keep hiring them. So that translates to producing the worst possible software that barely works. So no, they're not $100B companies for nothing. They know exactly how to walk that line.
- marcosdumay 3y ago
  > And they do genuinely do good work in these areas. I have seen genuinely passable. And lots of "good enough until we fix the underlining issue". What I have never seen is offshored developers doing really good work. And I'm convinced their incentive structure will always punish anybody that tries.
- anthk 3y ago
  I've seen turds as web pages at the Spanish Goverment or even the Healthcare systems. Those are designed to deliberaterly harm the user experience full of judicial jargon so companies in the middle can get lots of profit handling the "legalese" such as filling the taxes.