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There have been a lot of, at least to me, somewhat unsubstantiated criticisms that fully remote work is difficult for new graduates. I can only provide n=1 samp

There have been a lot of, at least to me, somewhat unsubstantiated criticisms that fully remote work is difficult for new graduates. I can only provide n=1 sample data, but back when I was working for a company that was fully remote, we brought on many junior engineers who lived across the United States and didn't have any problems onboarding them by keeping a continual slack team huddle running during office hours. In a lot of ways, it was actually better for them because they could have a multi monitor set up and be looking at one of our shared screens while taking notes on the other one instead of a bunch of people crammed up against one laptop screen in an office.

baq 3y ago
That’s the thing - you need to consciously do things like that. Some don’t have presence of mind to do that and effectively waste everybody’s time.
smarmgoblin 3y ago
At least in software engineering, this is a great opportunity to start understanding how to cooperate and work with a team in this field. There should be a little bit of friction involved in tapping someone on the shoulder, and if you can only code within arms reach of a senior engineer you won’t make it very long. Sometimes I think the college mindset of “if my code doesn’t compile, the TA must have made a mistake giving it to me like this, I’ll ask him what’s wrong” persists into a first job. And there are jobs (and senior engineers) who encourage this pattern too, so it can be a while before anyone encounters a different atmosphere unfortunately.
- plaguepilled 3y ago
  Taking accountability for your solution does not require a physical presence. This is not relevant. Edit: I worded that a bit poorly. The point I wanted to convey was that the physical location isn't what determines accountability.
lordnacho 3y ago
The thing is the way it used to be done was you'd mill around the office and then when there was a free moment, you'd ask the senior guys some questions. It wasn't really structured. What you're describing has some merit, but it also means you are being watched all day, just like if you were in the office. Not being watched is probably a major benefit of WFH.
suprjami 3y ago
I've heard this too, but my employer is 99% remote and we've made some excellent hires over the last few years. It's part of my responsibilities to do ongoing mentorship, after others do more intense onboarding, so schedule regular (~monthly) video chats, and be available to work on incidentals together. No office required.

baq 3y ago

That’s the thing - you need to consciously do things like that. Some don’t have presence of mind to do that and effectively waste everybody’s time.

smarmgoblin 3y ago

At least in software engineering, this is a great opportunity to start understanding how to cooperate and work with a team in this field. There should be a little bit of friction involved in tapping someone on the shoulder, and if you can only code within arms reach of a senior engineer you won’t make it very long. Sometimes I think the college mindset of “if my code doesn’t compile, the TA must have made a mistake giving it to me like this, I’ll ask him what’s wrong” persists into a first job. And there are jobs (and senior engineers) who encourage this pattern too, so it can be a while before anyone encounters a different atmosphere unfortunately.

plaguepilled 3y ago
Taking accountability for your solution does not require a physical presence. This is not relevant. Edit: I worded that a bit poorly. The point I wanted to convey was that the physical location isn't what determines accountability.

lordnacho 3y ago

The thing is the way it used to be done was you'd mill around the office and then when there was a free moment, you'd ask the senior guys some questions. It wasn't really structured. What you're describing has some merit, but it also means you are being watched all day, just like if you were in the office. Not being watched is probably a major benefit of WFH.

suprjami 3y ago

I've heard this too, but my employer is 99% remote and we've made some excellent hires over the last few years. It's part of my responsibilities to do ongoing mentorship, after others do more intense onboarding, so schedule regular (~monthly) video chats, and be available to work on incidentals together. No office required.