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It's weird. Two decades ago I had a 2004 subaru that needed nothing first years. Then We got a 2015 Toyota rav 4 and every maintenance there was some up sell.

It's weird. Two decades ago I had a 2004 subaru that needed nothing first years. Then We got a 2015 Toyota rav 4 and every maintenance there was some up sell. Change a filter check the brakes resurface rotors change the atf or differential oil etc. We actually got into a dispute with dealer after third consecutive $300brakes maintenance. Thought maybe that was lemon car or bad dealer but now we have a honda odyssey and same thing. My bill last week was $900 for a car that nothing was wrong with, just "regular maintenance". Due to our schedules my wife usually takes the car in ; I can see the bill is inflated in terms of labour and parts but I already know they'll tell me that's the book value. So for today's ice cars, they do get a lot of revenue from regular maintenance and may even be more profitable for them than actual fixes. I wonder about Ev - do they not have brakes, Cv joints, bearings, differentials (I know there's no transmission), et cetera?

danans 3y ago
>U wonder about Ev - do they not have brakes, Cv joints, bearings, differentials (I know there's no transmission), et cetera? They have all those, but at least for brakes, they last much longer due to regen braking.
- mulmen 3y ago
  My brakes are serviced on a time interval. Brake fluid is hydrophilic. You replace it based on age to prevent corrosion of brake components. If brakes are used less and don't get as hot I would expect EV brakes to need more preventative maintenance, not less. Pads and rotors may last longer, but fluid will be the same or worse.
  - sokoloff 3y ago
    Any water vapor that gets into the fluid won’t be removed by brake application, so your flush interval will be no different.
  - seanmcdirmid 3y ago
    I think on a Tesla you should use your brakes once a month or so, just so they don’t get rusty. If you live in a place where they salt the roads in the winter, you need to clean and lube your breaks once a year.
    - mulmen 3y ago
      Using the brakes is what removes rust from them. The friction of the brake pads rubs off the surface oxidation. I would expect Teslas to have very rusty brake rotors unless they have something like BMW's brake drying to cycle the brakes regularly to remove rust. I have no idea what it means to "lube" brakes, I guess you mean where the calipers mount? I have never heard of that being a maintenance item. But please do not apply any lubricant to your braking system unless you know exactly what you are doing and why. I am speaking about water vapor getting inside the braking system, which is unavoidable. Eventually moisture will get in there and it will settle at the bottom of the system where it will begin to rust components from the inside.
      - seanmcdirmid 3y ago
        I just ready their maintenance page about brakes, if you live in a place that salts the roads, you need to check (clean?) and lube them every year. I don’t live in a place that uses salt, and I have a BMW anyways. And yes, they suggest to use the brakes sometimes to get the rust off.
- jandrese 3y ago
  Electric cars do a lot of regenerative breaking so the brake pads last for thousands and thousands of miles. Even on hybrids it was pretty common for Priuses with 100,000 miles to still be on their factory pads.
Sohcahtoa82 3y ago
Most likely, you're being swindled by your dealership. Your rotors should never need resurfacing unless you're doing a lot of HARD braking. Stop-and-go traffic doesn't count, here. We're talking something that causes your brakes to frequently get hot and begin warping. If your braking feels fine, there's no reason to get them resurfaced. Check your manual for fluid change intervals. Don't let the dealer convince you to replace any of the fluids that aren't part of the schedule. > I wonder about Ev - do they not have brakes, Cv joints, bearings, differentials (I know there's no transmission), et cetera? Brakes will last the life of the car since regen braking means the pads/rotors are never used at more than 10 mph except in an emergency. As for the others...yeah, they don't require nearly as much maintenance as your dealer is telling you. The 2003 Suzuki Esteem I owned in the past did 150,000 miles and I never did any maintenance on the differential, CV joints, or bearings.
seanmcdirmid 3y ago
EVs have brakes, but due to regenerative braking, they wear out much more slowly than they do on an ICE. However, EVs see, to go through tires much faster than an ICE…way too many people enjoying their acceleration boost on a heavier car.

danans 3y ago

>U wonder about Ev - do they not have brakes, Cv joints, bearings, differentials (I know there's no transmission), et cetera? They have all those, but at least for brakes, they last much longer due to regen braking.

mulmen 3y ago
My brakes are serviced on a time interval. Brake fluid is hydrophilic. You replace it based on age to prevent corrosion of brake components. If brakes are used less and don't get as hot I would expect EV brakes to need more preventative maintenance, not less. Pads and rotors may last longer, but fluid will be the same or worse.
- sokoloff 3y ago
  Any water vapor that gets into the fluid won’t be removed by brake application, so your flush interval will be no different.
- seanmcdirmid 3y ago
  I think on a Tesla you should use your brakes once a month or so, just so they don’t get rusty. If you live in a place where they salt the roads in the winter, you need to clean and lube your breaks once a year.
  - mulmen 3y ago
    Using the brakes is what removes rust from them. The friction of the brake pads rubs off the surface oxidation. I would expect Teslas to have very rusty brake rotors unless they have something like BMW's brake drying to cycle the brakes regularly to remove rust. I have no idea what it means to "lube" brakes, I guess you mean where the calipers mount? I have never heard of that being a maintenance item. But please do not apply any lubricant to your braking system unless you know exactly what you are doing and why. I am speaking about water vapor getting inside the braking system, which is unavoidable. Eventually moisture will get in there and it will settle at the bottom of the system where it will begin to rust components from the inside.
    - seanmcdirmid 3y ago
      I just ready their maintenance page about brakes, if you live in a place that salts the roads, you need to check (clean?) and lube them every year. I don’t live in a place that uses salt, and I have a BMW anyways. And yes, they suggest to use the brakes sometimes to get the rust off.
jandrese 3y ago
Electric cars do a lot of regenerative breaking so the brake pads last for thousands and thousands of miles. Even on hybrids it was pretty common for Priuses with 100,000 miles to still be on their factory pads.

Sohcahtoa82 3y ago

Most likely, you're being swindled by your dealership. Your rotors should never need resurfacing unless you're doing a lot of HARD braking. Stop-and-go traffic doesn't count, here. We're talking something that causes your brakes to frequently get hot and begin warping. If your braking feels fine, there's no reason to get them resurfaced. Check your manual for fluid change intervals. Don't let the dealer convince you to replace any of the fluids that aren't part of the schedule. > I wonder about Ev - do they not have brakes, Cv joints, bearings, differentials (I know there's no transmission), et cetera? Brakes will last the life of the car since regen braking means the pads/rotors are never used at more than 10 mph except in an emergency. As for the others...yeah, they don't require nearly as much maintenance as your dealer is telling you. The 2003 Suzuki Esteem I owned in the past did 150,000 miles and I never did any maintenance on the differential, CV joints, or bearings.

seanmcdirmid 3y ago

EVs have brakes, but due to regenerative braking, they wear out much more slowly than they do on an ICE. However, EVs see, to go through tires much faster than an ICE…way too many people enjoying their acceleration boost on a heavier car.