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How are you supposed to discover and use WSL? I got fed up with trying to run Fusion360 on Linux, no longer had a Mac, and reignited my long disused Windows in

by OJFord 3y ago

How are you supposed to discover and use WSL? I got fed up with trying to run Fusion360 on Linux, no longer had a Mac, and reignited my long disused Windows installation recently. Updated and restarted. Looked around for WSL, nothing. Searched online, loads of blog spam of mixed helpfulness, no way of telling (for me, new to it) if they were v1 or v2, no basic information like they're talking about Ubuntu but is that a requirement? What changes if I want x? Looked in the app store, ..stuff yes, including 'Arch WSL' for example, but is this right? It seems to work, but really, I'm supposed to install something third-party? I assumed it was just something that was there built-in by default, but apparently not? Probably is if I first go start run regedit and set Computer Computer Windows HKLM Software Windows Windows Linux Software WSL enable to '2', right? Easy.

noSyncCloud 3y ago
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/install https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/install
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Our_Benefactors 3y ago
Open a terminal and type “wsl”, it will tell you what to do from there. It’s also easily available in the MS App Store without an account.
dekhn 3y ago
Literally the first page Google shows for [ install wsl on windows ] is the canonical documentation which is trivial to follow. Don't touch the registry.
xen2xen1 3y ago
Everything is easier on Windows 11. If you have 10 it's all harder and less built in, and some features don't work at all
- OJFord 3y ago
  It is 10 yes. I glossed over a few steps as 'updated and restarted' - I actually spent an entire day trying to enable secure boot and (as required in order to) upgrade to 11 and then recovering from fearing I'd bricked it. (GPU doesn't support it, I now think (beforehand had no idea that even might be an issue). Motherboard then wouldn't revert to integrated graphics even with the card removed.) I really can't fathom how any technically-minded professional gets anything done with Windows - nevermind SEs - it just feels constantly in the way. And I'm not a die-hard Linux (nor Apple) fanatic, I grew up with Windows, it got me into 'computers'. It just seems like an uncontrollable (as in literally, operator not in control) mess compared even to macOS to me now. (I also really wanted to like it coming back to it - I thought with WSL surely that was going to take the Unixy strength of macOS and far supersede it as a when-I-can't-use-Linux device. But so far, egh, nevermind that I think the hardware's great, I think I'd pay the Apple tax just for the OS.) Maybe I'll try again to upgrade if the integrated graphics support it.
  - FireBeyond 3y ago
    You blame Windows for all these issues around Secure Boot, then you need to be equally annoyed at Apple for how "not easy" it is to run Linux on a Mac with a T2 security chip and disabling System Integrity Protection...
    - OJFord 3y ago
      I wasn't blaming Windows for it being difficult as such, though for requiring it I suppose. Macs ship with SIP enabled and it's easy to disable, I don't know what the (comparable) issue is there? Again, not that I'm at all an Apple/Mac fanboy, I've had one personal Apple device (2013 Air) and a couple of work MBPs since. If anything macOS could be credited with moving me to Linux. Before it I only really knew Windows, but now I'd say 'Linux is what you make of it, macOS is just about manageable, and Windows is what it is'.
      - FireBeyond 3y ago
        > Macs ship with SIP enabled and it's easy to disable, I don't know what the (comparable) issue is there? I generally use a Mac too, connected to Linux systems, but from the last time I disabled Secure Boot on a PC, the process was press F2 for Setup, go to the System tab in the BIOS, and uncheck Secure Boot, Save. It's not particularly harder than a Mac: Restart in Recovery Mode, Launch a terminal, `csrutil disable`, Reboot. > though for requiring it I suppose Just like Mac "requires" it? I guess I just don't see how this is a "Windows sucks compared to Mac, let alone Linux" thing.
Aerbil313 3y ago
I’ve found running a VM easier than WINE, FYI. LookingGlass?

by OJFord 3y ago

noSyncCloud 3y ago

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/install https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/install

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Our_Benefactors 3y ago

Open a terminal and type “wsl”, it will tell you what to do from there. It’s also easily available in the MS App Store without an account.

dekhn 3y ago

Literally the first page Google shows for [ install wsl on windows ] is the canonical documentation which is trivial to follow. Don't touch the registry.

xen2xen1 3y ago

Everything is easier on Windows 11. If you have 10 it's all harder and less built in, and some features don't work at all

OJFord 3y ago
It is 10 yes. I glossed over a few steps as 'updated and restarted' - I actually spent an entire day trying to enable secure boot and (as required in order to) upgrade to 11 and then recovering from fearing I'd bricked it. (GPU doesn't support it, I now think (beforehand had no idea that even might be an issue). Motherboard then wouldn't revert to integrated graphics even with the card removed.) I really can't fathom how any technically-minded professional gets anything done with Windows - nevermind SEs - it just feels constantly in the way. And I'm not a die-hard Linux (nor Apple) fanatic, I grew up with Windows, it got me into 'computers'. It just seems like an uncontrollable (as in literally, operator not in control) mess compared even to macOS to me now. (I also really wanted to like it coming back to it - I thought with WSL surely that was going to take the Unixy strength of macOS and far supersede it as a when-I-can't-use-Linux device. But so far, egh, nevermind that I think the hardware's great, I think I'd pay the Apple tax just for the OS.) Maybe I'll try again to upgrade if the integrated graphics support it.
- FireBeyond 3y ago
  You blame Windows for all these issues around Secure Boot, then you need to be equally annoyed at Apple for how "not easy" it is to run Linux on a Mac with a T2 security chip and disabling System Integrity Protection...
  - OJFord 3y ago
    I wasn't blaming Windows for it being difficult as such, though for requiring it I suppose. Macs ship with SIP enabled and it's easy to disable, I don't know what the (comparable) issue is there? Again, not that I'm at all an Apple/Mac fanboy, I've had one personal Apple device (2013 Air) and a couple of work MBPs since. If anything macOS could be credited with moving me to Linux. Before it I only really knew Windows, but now I'd say 'Linux is what you make of it, macOS is just about manageable, and Windows is what it is'.
    - FireBeyond 3y ago
      > Macs ship with SIP enabled and it's easy to disable, I don't know what the (comparable) issue is there? I generally use a Mac too, connected to Linux systems, but from the last time I disabled Secure Boot on a PC, the process was press F2 for Setup, go to the System tab in the BIOS, and uncheck Secure Boot, Save. It's not particularly harder than a Mac: Restart in Recovery Mode, Launch a terminal, `csrutil disable`, Reboot. > though for requiring it I suppose Just like Mac "requires" it? I guess I just don't see how this is a "Windows sucks compared to Mac, let alone Linux" thing.

Aerbil313 3y ago

I’ve found running a VM easier than WINE, FYI. LookingGlass?