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I'm an outlier too then. I want to keep email away from everything as much as possible. I also want a web browser to be a web browser, not something that "cont

I'm an outlier too then. I want to keep email away from everything as much as possible. I also want a web browser to be a web browser, not something that "contains" other apps. For mail I want to open my mail client, not web browser. Having an integrated email client into a browser is really like a cheap Windows computer prebundled with crapware and malware.

carlosjobim 3y ago
It's not easy to find a good E-Mail client for Windows. I had to help a friend who is not good with computers, and in the end we settled for Fastmail, because we couldn't find a native client that worked acceptably. What's your recommendation?
- jeltz 3y ago
  Thunderbird. It is still the greatest email client. It has some issues with huge mailboxes but no other client I have tried even come close to the convenience of using Thunderbird.
  - carlosjobim 3y ago
    We tried Thunderbird, but it was just not user-friendly enough to be suitable. The tabbed interface and strange pop-up windows were confusing in an e-mail client. But I'm sure it is a great client on Windows for more computer-literate people.
- can16358p 3y ago
  I don't know. I use the bare minimum for email and I live in the Apple ecosystem with iCloud mail so the stock Mail app is more than enough for me. Definitely less featured but I don't need the extras anyway.
  - carlosjobim 3y ago
    Yes the stock Mail.app is excellent and what I use, but try convincing somebody who is not a computer professional to get a Mac...
realitythreek 3y ago
I don’t have a strong opinion about an email client in a browser but email clients already contain a web browser. This is due to practically all email being formatted in HTML. You could argue this is a giant mistake and you wouldn’t be wrong.
- slondr 3y ago
  Not all email clients. Not even all modern email clients. Certainly not the email client I use.
  - Octoth0rpe 3y ago
    >> but email clients already contain a web browser > Not even all modern email clients I think a slightly more accurate statement is that all modern email clients contain an html renderer, which is _not_ the same as a browser.
    - realitythreek 3y ago
      No to put words in their mouth, but I suspect they were saying they use a text email client. If so, fair enough, but most people don’t. Most people actually use their phone or webmail in a browser tab, but that’s neither here nor there.
    - leephillips 3y ago
      Equally innacurate: https://lwn.net/Articles/837960/ https://lwn.net/Articles/837960/

carlosjobim 3y ago

It's not easy to find a good E-Mail client for Windows. I had to help a friend who is not good with computers, and in the end we settled for Fastmail, because we couldn't find a native client that worked acceptably. What's your recommendation?

jeltz 3y ago
Thunderbird. It is still the greatest email client. It has some issues with huge mailboxes but no other client I have tried even come close to the convenience of using Thunderbird.
- carlosjobim 3y ago
  We tried Thunderbird, but it was just not user-friendly enough to be suitable. The tabbed interface and strange pop-up windows were confusing in an e-mail client. But I'm sure it is a great client on Windows for more computer-literate people.
can16358p 3y ago
I don't know. I use the bare minimum for email and I live in the Apple ecosystem with iCloud mail so the stock Mail app is more than enough for me. Definitely less featured but I don't need the extras anyway.
- carlosjobim 3y ago
  Yes the stock Mail.app is excellent and what I use, but try convincing somebody who is not a computer professional to get a Mac...

realitythreek 3y ago

I don’t have a strong opinion about an email client in a browser but email clients already contain a web browser. This is due to practically all email being formatted in HTML. You could argue this is a giant mistake and you wouldn’t be wrong.

slondr 3y ago
Not all email clients. Not even all modern email clients. Certainly not the email client I use.
- Octoth0rpe 3y ago
  >> but email clients already contain a web browser > Not even all modern email clients I think a slightly more accurate statement is that all modern email clients contain an html renderer, which is _not_ the same as a browser.
  - realitythreek 3y ago
    No to put words in their mouth, but I suspect they were saying they use a text email client. If so, fair enough, but most people don’t. Most people actually use their phone or webmail in a browser tab, but that’s neither here nor there.
  - leephillips 3y ago
    Equally innacurate: https://lwn.net/Articles/837960/ https://lwn.net/Articles/837960/