> The average man is taller than the average woman. Yes, but that was kinda my point. "Taller" is a comparative trait not an intrinsic one. If you are the last

> The average man is taller than the average woman. Yes, but that was kinda my point. "Taller" is a comparative trait not an intrinsic one. If you are the last person on earth, things like your height, your test level, how you keep your beard etc remain. But you are not taller than anyone. > Traits doesn’t mean only one sex has it That is how the dude above me defined it, hence my complaint, thanks for agreeing with me here. > But the levels are the traits difference between them. Yes, but also those traits individually are not enough. Similar to Species in an animal group, what we look for are clusters. Clusters of traits that are masculine/feminine etc makes us read a human as feminine or masculine. > It doesn’t seem that you’re arguing that there’s no difference. My argument is that masculine and feminine are mostly made up social constructs that we mold based on many times silly stuff. Like people in croatia used to ride a horse with a necktie to not get swea on their shirts, and the king of france liked it so much he copied it but made it expensive with silk, then rich twats in france followed and 400 years later all men in banking wear ties, as peak masculine work uniform. There is nothing "masculine" about a french king copying a necktie and yet culturally it is enshrined. So I was arguing that the position that masculine is something women tend not to do/or have is wrong. That is not how masculine or feminine things start, they start at random many times and culturally stick.