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time to subsidize 150cc petrol motorcycles. with modern ICE motor and emissions you can easily get 120mpg with near zero emissions (better than electric emissi
by tonymet 3y ago
time to subsidize 150cc petrol motorcycles. with modern ICE motor and emissions you can easily get 120mpg with near zero emissions (better than electric emissions )
you can build 20 small motorcycles using the materials of one tesla and 50 for 1 e hummer
set city speed limits to 45mph
typical quality e bike is about the same cost as a 150cc moto
- s0rce 3y agoagreed, subsidize all 2 wheeled city-speed-appropriate transport options!
- doctoboggan 3y agoI don't understand the near zero emissions bit, as c02 is a product of any combustion. Is the argument that it's just significantly less?
- adgjlsfhk1 3y agoyeah. a 200lb motorcycle with 200lbs of rider uses a ton less fuel than a 3000lb car
- doctoboggan 3y agoBased on the numbers in the original comment, it seems like it uses about 1/4th of the fuel, which means it would emit 1/4th of the co2. A 75% reduction is definitely something to celebrate, but its not what I would call "near zero emissions (better than electric emissions )".
- adgjlsfhk1 3y ago120 mpg is similar to an electric car (if you consider the electricity). Electric motorcycles/ebikes are still ~2x more efficient (small gas engines suck), but a gas motorcycle is still pretty good compared to a car (especially once you start taking into account the infrastructure/congestion/road wear).
- seanmcdirmid 3y agoMost Chinese cites have outlaws ICE bikes and have been e-bike only, some (like Beijing) for around 20 years now. The difference in air quality is significant, especially since China’s very cheap e-bikes get wide use among the masses. Compare to Southeast Asia where most cities are still filled with ICE mopeds, and the air quality is horrible.
- tonymet 3y agothose countries are poor and the mopeds are unregulated old bikes . with proper fueling , emissions and mufflers it’s a different story
- joshlemer 3y agoThey are however extremely loud and not appropriate to ride on bike infrastructure IMO
- tonymet 3y agothey’re just old and unregulated . proper fueling , emissions and mufflers make them quieter than cars esp at speed
- tonymet 3y agobike infra is a joke anyway – it’s the roads you want . if you must we could easily add a 20mph governor e-bikes have the same governors that many disable upon setup .