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Your description of the fediverse isn’t accurate. You’ve had a few people tell you that and your attack on my supposed inexperience with HN isn’t relevant (and

Your description of the fediverse isn’t accurate. You’ve had a few people tell you that and your attack on my supposed inexperience with HN isn’t relevant (and is also ironic). Apologies if you took my assumption as an insult.

isaacremuant 3y ago
In hackernews you're supposed to explain WHY. Some have been constructive points and I've answered. None really countered the problem and some accepted it's part of the paradigm. You went with an ad hominem and double down on having no arguments.
- realitythreek 3y ago
  > Signal vs noise ratio is too high. This isn’t saying anything other than your not a fan. Which as I said is fine. > My point is that the model of Blocklist from others is not enticing for any individualistisc user who values diversification of ideas and the fact that the default makes it a bad burden for the user who wants to try that, means that communities won't be formed that don't have that blocklist mindset, one way or another. The model is too focused on closing down networks instead of invidual choice. Utility, since it's not like the internet where traffic is good, seems to be around creating extremely narrow minded pools with little crossover, since any exposure to widened thought can be immediately shut down. This was unspecific/vague and not an accurate description of the fediverse. It’s a very diverse (unfortunately so in some cases) group of communities that interact with each other. Or don’t if they choose. The value in allowing each instance to handle their own block list is that it scales and allows you to choose a server that shares your perspective. And basically if you disagree that this is the case, you’re free to change that and that’s the point. You have all of the choice.
  - isaacremuant 3y ago
    You're repeating your points without refuting mine. You're endorsing my points with the "you're free to choose your own Blocklist", which: - you aren't as an individual except through an admin who decides on their instance or the high barrier of running your own. The choice I have is it to love or leave each instance and pay the price of fragmentation and user registration per instance, plus having to switch. In any case, you've unwillingly agreed with me by explaining my "choice" after calling me uninformed and now vague. It's funny how you also see diversity as an unfortunate. Says a lot. Fundamentally, it's not putting the true power of granularity and easy choice on the user but forming small very narrow minded communities at the whim of an admin, with a high cost of transfer (unlike a sub where you might disagre with a mod decisiom). Funnily enough, feels less free choice than Reddit in some aspects.

isaacremuant 3y ago

In hackernews you're supposed to explain WHY. Some have been constructive points and I've answered. None really countered the problem and some accepted it's part of the paradigm. You went with an ad hominem and double down on having no arguments.

realitythreek 3y ago
> Signal vs noise ratio is too high. This isn’t saying anything other than your not a fan. Which as I said is fine. > My point is that the model of Blocklist from others is not enticing for any individualistisc user who values diversification of ideas and the fact that the default makes it a bad burden for the user who wants to try that, means that communities won't be formed that don't have that blocklist mindset, one way or another. The model is too focused on closing down networks instead of invidual choice. Utility, since it's not like the internet where traffic is good, seems to be around creating extremely narrow minded pools with little crossover, since any exposure to widened thought can be immediately shut down. This was unspecific/vague and not an accurate description of the fediverse. It’s a very diverse (unfortunately so in some cases) group of communities that interact with each other. Or don’t if they choose. The value in allowing each instance to handle their own block list is that it scales and allows you to choose a server that shares your perspective. And basically if you disagree that this is the case, you’re free to change that and that’s the point. You have all of the choice.
- isaacremuant 3y ago
  You're repeating your points without refuting mine. You're endorsing my points with the "you're free to choose your own Blocklist", which: - you aren't as an individual except through an admin who decides on their instance or the high barrier of running your own. The choice I have is it to love or leave each instance and pay the price of fragmentation and user registration per instance, plus having to switch. In any case, you've unwillingly agreed with me by explaining my "choice" after calling me uninformed and now vague. It's funny how you also see diversity as an unfortunate. Says a lot. Fundamentally, it's not putting the true power of granularity and easy choice on the user but forming small very narrow minded communities at the whim of an admin, with a high cost of transfer (unlike a sub where you might disagre with a mod decisiom). Funnily enough, feels less free choice than Reddit in some aspects.